Remind me what we got for Zach Randolph.

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    fixed.

    Worst trade in Blazers history. :sigh:
     
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    The Grizzlies look to be a far better team than ours starting as soon as next year and probably for the next decade. I'd trade everyone we got in that trade just to get Zach back, and let NY keep the $30 million we gave them to take him. We'd be a dominate team again instead of a crippled, poorly constructed hodge-podge of players who don't mesh and have little heart or work ethic. I fully expect another about-face and rebuild to start this summer, or next week, whichever comes first. New coach, new GM, new lineup, and eventually new city (Seattle).

    Seriously, other than Brandon Roy, who that is left on this team is going to take us anywhere?
     
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    lmao. You do realize this team won 50 games with Juwan Fucking Howard starting at center for a third of the season, right?
     
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    We probably got a headache every time we played the Kings with Sergio, right? :'(
     
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    :biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:

    I'm sorry, but you don't actually *believe* that, do you? The only thing that has changed, is the way the Goryonion covers the team. The "JailBlazers" were mostly a myth, and the current "not so much as a parking ticket" story is almost certainly the same.
     
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    This is my take on it.

    I don't get this contract year business. He has a career PER of 19.6, his PER this season was 21.2, and his career best was 22.8 his last season with the Blazers (not a contract year).
     
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    Agreed. We should also trade Rudy for Kevin Durant.

    KP will be sorry he didn't in 4 years.
     
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    I would have held on to him versus what we did.
     
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    Oh, ok.

    I thought you were saying it was a good trade.

    Sorry Misunderstood.
     
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    I was thinking Camby and Miller's presence are more relevant to Zach being currently on the books.

    boy... Camby + Miller or Zach :smiley-hmm: thats a tough one

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    We could have got Miller for the full MLE, I'd bet. He got a guaranteed 2 years, $14m from Portland. The team has an option for a third season at $7m.

    The Blazers could have offered 4 years max MLE and given him more guaranteed money.

    So I don't think it's even particularly helpful to think of Zach as eventually netting Miller when we probably could have had both.

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    Well put.
     
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    The problem is, no one could possibly know any other variables that would be in place if Zach had stayed in Portland. Would Miller even be necessary? Would Zach have punched Roy? Would we have squeaked into the playoffs in '07-08, meaning we don't have Bayless and Batum (bought that pick; perhaps wouldn't with Zach's salary)? Speculating with any sort of certainty about an unknown quantity is fun, but I'm not sure what it proves in reality.
     
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    But why would we want Andre for 4 years of potential decline when we're more flexible with a 2-year deal? I know this is tangental, but I like the flexibility of being able to dump him in two years if we don't his face or whatever.
     
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    Plus, do we know that there weren't MLE offers on the table for Miller, but for 3 years?
     
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    Do we even care? He's one year away from retirement, as is Camby, and then we have no PG at all and a PF who could never hold his own at either end of the court against Zach.
     
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