Remind me what we got for Zach Randolph.

he was so fantastic next to Camby last season that the Clips gave him away... remember?

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And then they improved by 10 games.

 

I guess I could be wrong, but didn't the Clips trade Zach after they drafted Griffin?

 

ZBO DRAFT CURSE!

 

...and their first option was......

 

Yep. Same player. He would be helpful here in Portland...definitely good to have a guy off the bench who can score and rebound..that's for damn sure.

 

There was no rush to trade ZBO for absolutely nothing. The point of blowing up a team is not to simply get rid of players, its to trade players for others of value, which we did not do at the time. We traded ZBO for the privledge of paying a salary. Addition by subtraction is just as imaginary as.....

 

He also did things to women that would get him 30 years in prison if he hadn't paid them off.

 

Anyhow, back to the subject of this thread, we also ended up getting Andre Miller for Zach.

 

Right no, rush, other than to attempt to hit rock bottom earlier, and begin the long, slow climb up. I believe the point of blowing up a team is to get rid of players. That's why it's called blowing it up. And that's what we did. We traded ZBo to save ourselves 30 million dollars or more on his deal, and improved as a team in the process.

 

That only further proves my point.

 

We would have been fine either way. When you blow up a team, a competent GM would get useful players in return. We got imaginary cap space which was never used.

 

what. that Pritchard is in the same class of GMs as the Knicks and the Clippers? Seeing that we're on the verge of 2 straight 1st round exits...may be right...considering when Drafting Oden we were, by many accounts, going to be a Dynasty. The ZBO trade was a major fuckup. Oooh, we improved 10 fucking games after Brandon Roy and LMA's rookie season.

 

yup without both Zach or Griffin and trading Camby with 1/3rd of the season left they still improved significantly this past year

The Clips actions sure didn't seem to place much value on Zach... neither did the trade market for the umpteenth time.

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Proof? Do you have any proof we would be fine either way? I'll wait for this proof Zach would fit in well off the bench here and that we would be the same team. How many competent GMs are there in the league , IYO? That have gone through major rebuilding periods. Also, who was going to give up ANYTHING of value for Zach?
We signed Andre Miller with our cap space. We used it, so you can stop with your stupid played out "imaginary cap space" schtick.

 

Actually sometimes it is.

 

How about this.

Defense wins championships. Zach Randolph is one of the worst, if not the single worst, low post defender in the NBA.

Therefore, Zach Randolph is not a useful player on a team that is looking to win a title.

I don't care about his off court antics.
I do care about his effect on the locker room (so bad B-Roy wanted him gone).
More importantly, I care a great deal about effort. Zach never gave it and it sickened me to watch him fuck around during the game.

You want to win a title, you cannot afford to have a Zach Randolph type player on your team.

Therefore, Z-Bo is not a useful player on a team that values winning.
He is valuable on a team trying to fool it's fan base into thinking they value winning.

Makes him a fine fit in Memphis.

 

No, that 3 teams desperate for any kind of player still didn't want him.

And being facetious about Pritchard doesn't help your argument by the way. It's just a twist of words that doesn't have anything to do with what either of us are talking about.

How was the Zbo trade a major fuck up?

 

The cap space was over-hyped. It was imaginary because we did not know the free agent market at the time and the Blazers financial situation. For trading a player with ZBOs stats and skills for essentailly zilch and only having $7 million of available cap space is nothing short of laughable, considering we had a "cap genius". It was told at the time of the trade by many on these boards trading Zach would open a HUUUUUGGEEE amount of cap flexibility and we could sign all-star caliber players.

As for proof, its impossible to prove since KP got too fucking cocky about his own abilities and decided to trade ZBO for nothing.

 

It was a fuck-up because we got nothing for it.

What did we get? The ability to sign a $7 million dollar contract 2 years in the future? woop-de-doo.