Repealing Obamacare

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  1. MickZagger

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    and Republicans want to tighten the borders.
     
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    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    Unemployed right now, but getting trained at the end of February as a Heavy Equipment Operator. It's an 8 week course.

    Might get my CDL while I'm at it, but I haven't decided yet.
     
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    Better find a Union gig if you want to make what you deserve at a job like that.
     
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    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    .....yeah, and? We don't have the work for illegal immigrants. We barely have the work for our own citizens.

    Add in Kiosks and other machinery in response to the rising minimum wage, and it's easy to see that we can't take in illegal immigrants.

    When the time comes, I'll do the appropriate research and find what's best for me.

    I've thought about moving to Arizona or, at the very least, somewhere cheap in the mid-west. I hear parts of Texas are a real good value for the money, not to mention beautiful.

    One step at a time.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Communism is socialism at its core. Nazism was (national) socialism at its core, too. It's natural to want to avoid us going down those paths.

    Not even Bernie Sanders is a communist.
     
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    It only exists in a book....never been actually achieved that old communist stuff...always turns into facism or dictatorship...communism isn't socialism...socialism is way more flexible
     
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    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    My father is a Upper Middle Class business man of 30 years (Sales and Marketing) for the Tech industry. He's served as President of one company, and the Vice President of another. Started his career in the Silicon Valley.

    He was a life-long Democrat until this election cycle. He told me he voted 3rd Party, but I honestly don't know for certain.

    He wasn't thrilled with Hillary....but he was terrified at the thought of Sanders.

    That was enough to convince me never to vote for him.
     
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    Bernie is a Social Democrat.....no news here...but nobody believes that's communism Denny...read Karl Marx and learn
     
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    hahahahaha.

    There's nothing flexible about forcing people to work their asses off to carry someone else.

    Consider this hypothetical:

    Me and barfo work the same job, shoulder to shoulder. I work my ass off and kick ass and get paid proportionally better for it.

    Socialism comes in and the company is owned by the state. We both get paid the same, no matter how hard I work. So I stop working entirely, as much as that is possible, and let barfo carry me.

    Thanks, but no thanks.
     
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    Why are you arguing with me. I said not even Sanders is a communist.
     
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    in response to your....communism or Nazi facism is socialism.....it's not...very different...and as I said..no earthling has ever really created a true communist state....it's an ideal....people confuse it all the time with facism or socialism
     
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    Nazism is socialism. National Socialism. It's party platforms were all about socialism. President's Physical Fitness program, social security, massive public works and patronage of the arts, price controls, 98% corporate tax rate, massive government spending as a % of GDP, nationalization of entire industries and rigid control of the remaining ones, and even their war machine (ran massive national debts on behalf of the state).

    The difference between socialism and communism is subtle. It's only the definition of "communal ownership" that differs and only slightly.
     
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    facism...dictatorship...under guise of national socialism but it wasn't that it turned out...that was the smokescreen though unless the patronage of the arts part meant stealing or the social programs included genocide
     
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    Bill gates met with Trump even though he disagree with his positions. That's how you can make change.

    Trump has invited anyone in any party to speak and work with him. It's too bad most of the left aren't taking advantage of a president willing and able to work with them.
     
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    For 6 years Republicans have never had any type of replacement plan. They still don't have one. So what you're saying is part of Obamacare are good..... They're not keeping that provision in their repeal bill so get the fuck out of here with that.
     
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    One of your more stupid posts. Obama by Design worked with Republicans because Obamacare is a republican plan! But besides that, every time he tried to work with them they just slap his hand. Even when he's passing their laws that they wrote. You gotta be fucking kidding me to say that Republicans tried to work with Obama. We know damn well that that's a goddamn lie.
     
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    Sorry to break this to you but most of what you post puts idiocy to epic levels.
     
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    I know you're Asian but why don't you ever say anything about white on white crime? How come that isn't even the saying? I'm so sick of your hypocritical bullshit. And you got me thinking that you have racist tendencies.
     
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    Just because you make a lot of money doesn't make you smart. It only makes you rich.
     
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    You specialize in going full mags in both sides of the Forum. You literally went and worked with Donald Trump and you have something to say to me about idiocy... Hilarious...
     
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