Repealing Obamacare

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  1. MarAzul

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    :cool2: What makes you think they need Trump?
     
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    They are gonna be dropping in crazy shit for prexisting conditions....oh you farted, that's a prexisting condition, you had a headache a decade ago...yeah we can't pay that....
     
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    This is so blatantly UNTRUE that I didn't bother to read the rest of the post.

    VA "healthcare" is never provided free to anyone.

    It is used to coerce people to risk their very lives in mortal combat.

    It is the largest part of their PAY for risking their very lives in mortal combat.

    It is CURRENTLY AVAILABLE TO YOU, if you enlist today to risk your very life in mortal combat.

    ACT NOW!!!! :cheers:
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Fixed that for you.
     
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    Cause he's gonna give them all the hugest tax break ever, he's gonna change the tax code so they don't have to pay shit, he's gonna strip all regulations and let big business do whatever the fuck they want, he's gonna widen the he'll out of every loophole there is...its a good time to be rich
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Follow the money. Where does it go? This ought to be amusing.

    Trickle down government did not work - the rich got much richer, while main street struggled.
     
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    It's going into the pockets of the rich. They are going to get a hell of a lot richer now....the divide grows...but it can do so for so long before it all collapses
     
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    Follow the money. The rich don't literally keep all their money in their pockets.
     
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    I wonder how Wyden will vote. He recommended Oregon not join in after he voted for the act.
     
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    If Planned Parenthood stayed away from Abortion, there'd be no opposition to it.

    Like it or not, many people believe abortion is murder and people don't want to pay for it.

    The rest (PAP smears, etc.) aren't the source of any opposition.
     
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    Denny, your ignorance is quite dispiriting. Maybe look up The Hyde Amendment and get back to us.
     
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    Henry Hyde was my representative for a few years and I exchanged quite a few mails with him at the time.

    I think the "ignorance" claims you make are misdirected. Have a look in the mirror.
     
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    I don't believe in paying taxes to fund a place like PP. So count me in on the side who gives no fucks about it. If the liberals care so much about PP then they should organize a monthly contribution payment subscription to it and fund it. Then it's a win win for everyone. Except they won't because most lefties are just blowhards without a backbone for action.
     
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    I've posted a number of times that once Planned Parenthood is defunded, I would donate to it. And gladly.

    It's voluntary association and a terrific charity (in my view).
     
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    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Or the AMA
    Yeah right. And most righties are just blowhards that want to pick fights. Exaggerate much?
     
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    Oh, that one is completely meaningless.
     
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    Heh? I don't believe the AMA ever crafted a marketable health insurance policy.

    It may have been Blue Cross but I don't know for sure who sold the first original policies. They were matching up a healthy risk pool to insure the members from possible high cost of low risk possibilities. When you change that to a standard risk pool, it no longer is worth the cost to the consumer.

    Employers were first to provide healthcare coverage to their employees by self insuring the risk. By the nature of their hiring practices (healthy people), they create a natural low risk pool, so self insuring is possible. At first insurance companies were not involved at all in this process. When I first started work at IBM, no insurance company was involved, doctors and hospitals or whatever had to even know about what coverage I had. I paid the bills directly (or my wife did) and IBM reimbursed me when a hospital bill was turned in or when other medical cost exceeded $180 in any 15 month period. They was no opportunity for the cost shifting of expense from non payers to the insured by this system. I worked great!!! The last time I heard, it cost them 52% of the cost of buying insurance, to self insure.

    Insurance companies wiggled in over time to manage these plans, fucking it up greatly over time.

    AMA was a Johnny come lately to the process, never really bringing a contribution.
     

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