Rumor Report: Owner Paul Allen investigating whether Trail Blazers’ problem is roster or coaching

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    Lma, Wes, rolo all walked. Batum became vonleh. Yeah it was handled bad. Should of traded Lma back then and then be honest with the fans. Neil is a great actor though. Alway trying to convince fans what we have is so good when in reality it’s not
     
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    Right I just give mark jackson more credit than Kerr. Kerr just came in at the right time
     
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    Two years later. I'm talking about in the summer of 2013 when LMA was talking about wanting out and the Cavs were rumored to have offered Thompson/#1 pick for him.
     
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    That's laughable.
     
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    I just don’t believe the Steve Kerr hype. Luke Walton stepped in when Kerr was out most of the season with his back issues. They still won an insane amount of games. Take pop away from the spurs for that amount of time, I think they become mediocre. Kerr is overrated
     
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    Walton was running Kerr's offense. His system.
     
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    Find a replacement for Olshey and bring in Tony Bennett (currently Virginia Cavaliers head coach) to replace Stotts.
     
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    You think that Duncan/Parker/Manu would have been mediocre?
     
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    Bill Laimbeer was my first choice but I believe he's now the Adam Silver of WNBA....cushy commissioner job might be tough for Bill to give up to be a big man coach these days....I think Sheed would be a good choice....Hakeem is on the Rockets bench...McHale can barely walk these days.
     
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    I disagree with your premise. If Pop were out for a couple months, I don't think the Spurs would suffer greatly, because his greatness isn't in-game coaching, but in the culture and system he has created and maintained in San Antonio. Even without him on the sidelines for a stretch, the culture and system would remain, and whatever assistant is holding down the fort would still be successful.

    I believe that the same is the case with Kerr and GSW. The jump they made when he took over from Jackson, without a major personnel change, suggests that it was his contributions that brought that team from good to great. Walton being able to maintain the excellence is just a testament to foundation Kerr had already laid, which still existed in his absence.
     
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    Walton was also raised around the league. He has done IMO a fantastic job with the Lakers. Walton appears to be a players coach with enough edge to keep the players in check just like Kerr......which I think we need.
     
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    Kerr took over when again? 2015 right? The season where curry had one of the greatest offensive seasons in nba history. All I recall when Kerr came in Klay and green came to and started playing out of their minds. All three. I don’t know, it’s just my opinion. Take Kerr and make him the coach of this team instead of stotts I don’t think much changes. Any team actually. It’s talent carrying his team
     
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    Seattle trail blazers :smiley-195517897341
     
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    Yes, Please!
     
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    Exactly and this is why you gotta trade cj and not pay too god damn much this summer for nurk because we know olshey is gonna pay him, just how much?
     
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    Agreed--it's just opinion on both sides, and honestly, either one of us can realistically and reasonably argue how the facts at hand support his position.

    As for Kerr and Curry--Kerr's first year there was 2014-15, and Curry's stats actually didn't take a huge jump that first year. It was his second year (when Walton subbed in for the first 1/3 of the year) that Curry had his amazing offensive season.

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    Really, looking at the change in GSW's performance from under Jackson to Kerr, the biggest change appears to be in assists. They were averaging ~23/game, and jumped that up to 28, 29, then 30+. To me, that's primarily attributable to Kerr's system.
     
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    My biggest issue with the staff/fo is the roster. IT has been since Aldridge left.
    I admit Aminu has proven to be better offensively in particularly from three than I expected.

    However Vonleh, Davis, Harkless, Henderson, Layman, Turner, & Plumlee are not players who fit Stotts' system.
    The system Portland was said to implement when he became the HC.
    These players are one dimensional and the defense begs them to shoot the shots Stotts' system demand they take.

    Now should Stotts adjust to the players he has? Yes, all the best coaches have.
    But Stotts came in here and it was touted he's going to start a culture, put in a system that can just plug in players like the Spurs do.
    Only to have the FO not give him the players he needs for this system, seems counter productive.

    I have my own issues with Stotts, but the roster is so broken I don't think any coach would be consistently successful with it.
     
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    I see what you’re saying and I get where people can see that, I just believe he has an extreme level of talent on his teams and talent like that doesn’t really need to be coached, they can thrive in any system.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Except that we got to see what the Warriors looked like as an "uncoached" team under Mark Jackson. They weren't championship caliber until Kerr got there.
     
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