Resignation over flawed paper "debunking" man-made global warming

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  1. Denny Crane

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    I don't see it in your graph. 1850-1900 looks about the same as 1950-2000 to me.
     
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    look at the peak years. It increases.
     
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    Look at 1900-1950.

    And look at the bottoms ;)
     
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    yeah since 1900 the amount of minimum hurricanes and maximum hurricanes is increasing. good point.
     
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    [video=youtube;8pa8duiMiS0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pa8duiMiS0[/video]

    an interesting video that both contradicts some of what i said, but also some of what others said.
     
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    Wait what?!? You mean major volcanic eruptions could cause humankind to actually want or need to change our climate?!?
     
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    Exxon funding these "studies" and groups is pertinent and should be publicized and known.

    I would like to point out however that the amount of money that Exxon is splashing around is small in comparison to the amount of money going to the "pro" AGW groups of various sorts.

    Didn't you find it curious that in compiling a list of Exxon funded "studies", there weren't also included lists of "studies" funded by groups that are - at this point in time - completely commited to the idea that global warming is fact, is accelerating, and is mostly man made. Those groups motives are just as suspect and should be monitored just as closely.
     
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    The graph looks sinusoidal to me.
     
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    You don't see the "confusing climate with weather" issue you're chasing here?
     
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    ...blame the geo-engineering and HAARP?! :dunno:
     
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    Fuck yeah Denny, nice job.
     
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    Another retraction today on the AGW side. Al Gore needs to remove more slides from his PowerPoint.

    This time it's a grossly exaggerated claim of glacier meltage in Greenland. Overstated by 50x.

    This kind of bogus information makes it into text books, and students accept it as gospel.
     
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    No, that's an incorrect and pretty misleading statement. An atlas was wrong, not the science.

    barfo
     
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    Fuck yeah Barfo, nice job.
     
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    The science is wrong if it's what the atlas relied on. You think they just made it up?
     
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    They misinterpreted the science according to their preconceptions. In other words, it's just like your posts on the subject.

    barfo
     
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    One of us would assume the Atlas was true. The other (me) would be skeptical about it.

    This is a text book, barfo. What teachers teach from (and believe as true) and students accept as the gospel. In fact, 97% of them do.
     
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    You wouldn't be skeptical. You search out and trumpet any evidence that supports your pre-determined conclusion, and you reject all evidence that is counter to it. That's not skepticism.

    S2 is a text book?

    I see your problem. You don't understand the difference between experts and students.

    barfo
     
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    As somebody who studies sea level rise and does GIS analysis for a living I find this discussion fascinating ...
     
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