Retired cop guns down man for texting at Florida movie

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  1. EL PRESIDENTE

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    Yeah. Something like that although the media is involved so the prosecutor may be overzealous

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    The guy is fairly old, 71 I think, so that could contribute to the self defense claim. The other guy was only like 43, so if he started the fight, the older guy could claim that he feared for his life.
     
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    its sad now hes claiming he feared for his life so we will se how this plays out
     
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    I could see shooting someone if the movie was nearing the climax, that's at least worth a flesh wound. But during the previews??? That's where I draw the line.
     
  6. Natebishop3

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    The fact that he shot and hit the wife doesn't bode well for him. I'm having a hard time imagining a scenario where you could be in grave danger without a weapon being involved and hit another person in the process of shooting.
     
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    The wife apparently jumped in..

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    To break them up or to help beat some old man ass?
     
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    She was trying to pull her husband out of the physical confrontation, and was shot in the hand. Keep in mind he only fired once, the bullet went through her hand and into her husband.

    I wonder if there is cell phone video of this out there somewhere?
     
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    This is going to be messy.

    No weapon involved. Lots of witnesses. This guy is a retired police captain. I don't see any way that he gets off.
     
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    What if the guy had the old dude pinned down and was whaling away? I'm not saying that's the case, but it's definitely one of many possible "justifiable homicide and/or self defense" scenarios...
     
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    Taking video with your phone in a movie theater is a big no-no. :tsktsk:
     
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    LOL! Not everyone white person who shoots someone is an innocent victim.
     
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    I don't think there are many justifiable self defense scenarios when you're talking about a physical altercation. If he had him held down, then yes, that could be justifiable, but if you plan on carrying a concealed handgun, it is your duty to try to avoid confrontation before using your weapon. This guy had decades of training on how to defuse a situation as a police officer. It will be interesting to hear some of the accounts of what happened though. Not saying he's guilty yet, but any time you talk about shooting an unarmed person, the deck is going to be stacked against you. You're going to have to justify that you could not simply remove yourself from the equation.
     
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    stop being racist!
     
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    "Witnesses advised they did not observe any punches being thrown."

    So much for a physical altercation.
     
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    Not so fast. The stand your ground law for Florida clearly states:

    (3) A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked by popcorn in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat from said popcorn and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if the popcorn is buttered and he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or getting covered in popcorn to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.
     
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    Also it was a dark theater so he probably thought the person throwing the popcorn was black.
     

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