Whatever award, runner up, top five Cho deserves to be put in . . . give Paul Allen the assist. Cho was able to get Wallace on the cheap because other owners wanted nothing to do with crash's contract. I bet Cuban is kicking himself . . .
Throwing out baseless assumptions as your proof somehow gives you credibility? No. Like I said... you're making up reasons to hate on Cho (unless you can provide a reference).
"Hating" on someone doesn't mean you hate them necessarily, it encompasses all criticisms and complaints. You're definitely hating on Cho. So you think that Cho was supposed to come in, guns blazing, and change everything up right off the bat? That doesn't make a lot of sense, and Cho needed to know how bad things were with Roy or Oden before he could decide if he was going to build for the future or try to give the team a boost for the now. He traded for Wallace and helped solidify our team to make a push now. Who would you have traded to give our bench more depth? Joel was used to acquire Wallace, so he's out, and the only other viable options are Andre Miller and Marcus Camby, so if you move them that makes us much weaker in the starting unit.
what if the whole point of trading Jbay was to go after a select few targets one of which who happened to be G? Would you give CHO some credit? The reason why I say this is because the Bayless trade reeked of bait, it seems that pick was a piece of a plan to me.. After last night you know he is! G.WALL really tips the scales for us vs. a lot of teams right now, the Mavericks being the prime example.
His wingspan and standing reach is more or less about the same as Chris Paul. Dude had zero issues getting his jumper off as teams have generally backed off him and dared him to shoot. He is an explosive athlete and quality finisher. If he ever gains consistency with his J the game will open up for him. STOMP
I don't understand your "give Cho some credit" comment. I've given Cho a ton of credit for the Wallace trade and said he's on the positive side of the ledger for me. So your implication that I'm somehow not giving Cho any credit is odd to me. I'm saying that I evaluate the Bayless deal and the Wallace deal as two separate deals, because I haven't seen anything to suggest that he was already putting the Wallace deal together back then (if he was, why wouldn't he have done it back then? A full season of Wallace would have been better than half). My belief (though I don't know this for sure) is that he felt a draft pick as a future tradeable asset was worth more than Bayless as a prospect for Portland, and I disagree...therefore I don't think it was a good deal. But his usage of that pick and other minor assets was fantastic.
Cho had Gerald Wallace at the top of his list of targeted players since he got the GM job. http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2011/02/blazers_14.html I also recall reading that the Blazers had talks with the Bobcats about acquiring Wallace as early as November. I don't think it's a stretch to presume that Cho had a pretty good idea of what it was going to take to make the deal with Jordan and that he took steps in trading Bayless to acquire the pick that would eventually be needed to get Wallace. He's not going to get GM of the year, but I think the guy should be given credit for knowing what pieces he wants and being able to put a package together that will make it work. OMG's argument is that Cho should have known early on that the Blazers' needed to make moves. The record shows that he did. Sometimes things just don't happen as quickly as we message board GMs would like them to.
Thanks Eblazer ^^^ Indeed a full season would of been, but I think Charlotte would have rioted in the streets if they traded him at the beginning of the year. Something about the trade deadline made it easier on the franchise to get rid of him and look better doing it.
I'm not sure what this thread has morphed into. I don't see anybody "hating" on Cho. I just don't find his work this year to be EotY-worthy. Top 10? Sure, but, excuses aside, the fact remains that the team is older now, yet will win less games than the previous two seasons. Let's give Cho a few years to really make his vision reality. Giving him EotY this year would be a bit like giving a new US President the Nobel Peace Prize for what he may be able to do in the future, wouldn't it?
I really liked KP, and wish he were still our GM. Evidentally, there was some shady stuff in the background and he deserved what he got, so I guess I'll have to move on. You can go back to the threads about getting a new GM and you'll see my first (realistic) choice was Rich Cho. I love what he brings to the table and think he's a great fit for this team. His strength however is his long-term strategizing. I figured he would sit on his hands for a year or so, working with Nate to figure out what this team needed and identifying the players to get and how to get them. I didn't think he was as capable of rescuing a situation on the fly, especially after just taking the job. He's done a nice short-term job, which has surprised me. I bet after the lockout, we see a much more assertive Cho in terms of putting his vision on this team.
That something was the firing of Larry Brown 28 games into the season. Wallace was a Larry Brown favorite. He was an all-star under Brown, and Larry Brown had just taken the Charlotte Bobcats to the NBA playoffs for the first time in team history. Prior to the season, there was optimism the Bobcats would build on their previous season's success (7th seed, 44-38, first winning record in team history). Trading their best player at that time would have been foolish and would have pissed off both their Hall of Fame coach and fan base. That all changed 28 games into the season when the team was 9-19 and Brown was fired. At that point, Charlotte basically decided it was time to blow things up and start the rebuilding process. Ironically, due to the weak Eastern Conference, they are still in the hunt for the final playoff spot 2 games behind current 8th seed Indiana. Sunday's home loss to the Wizards really hurt their chances, though. BNM
Another question. Given Larry Miller's close relationship with Michael Jordan, do we have any definitive proof that Cho was the reason for the Wallace trade? Remembering the press conference, it seems like Miller did most of the talking. Some of the same people who bashed on KP for taking too much credit now seem willing to bestow such singular praise on Rich Cho, whether it is deserved or otherwise.
I think Miller made it happen, but that Cho helped identify Wallace as a player that could help us and helped create the package that was presented to Charlotte.
I don't mean to sound flippant, but there has been discussion surrounding Gerald Wallace since the RLEC deadline. Identifying Wallace as a good player who fits into Nate's approach to the game doesn't take a basketball genius. Wallace is basically Travis Outlaw, but much, much better, and with excellent defense. Taking on the contract was the primary issue, and clearly Paul Allen is taking the approach that he won't mind paying some luxury tax, depending on the structure of the new CBA. This was more of a financial deal for Charlotte than it was anything else.
Interesting that you say this. I had never seen hat guy until this fall. He was at the PF and has been at the last 20 or so home games.
Personally, I don't care if the Cat in the Hat ran the show. We ended up with Wallace and that's all that counts in my book. Now that I think about it, there may have been a pink ring around the therapy pool when we went on the tour.
They may have presented the trade, but I think CHO crunched the numbers and provided the options to Miller and co. But like EBlazer said, who gives an F we got G.Wall!
