Politics Rick Gates is set to finalize a plea deal with Mueller and become the third cooperating witness in t

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    Former Trump campaign official Rick Gates pleads guilty to lying and conspiracy against the United States
    • Former Trump campaign official Rick Gates pleaded guilty on Friday in the special counsel's case against him and former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort.
    • Gates has been accused in multiple indictments of charges including bank fraud, lying to investigators, money laundering and failing to register as a foreign agent.
    • But on Friday, Gates pleaded guilty to just two counts: one count of conspiracy against the United States, and one count of making a false statement.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/23/for...l-rick-gates-pleads-guilty-on-two-counts.html
     
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    So Gates lied to Mueller during his Queen for the Day?!? Holy fucking shit what an idiot.

    Queen for a Day is where you go and spill your guts before a plea deal is offered so you can get the best deal possible. Nothing you confess to unless it's something terrible like murder is used against you. You're showing to the prosecution that you know shit that could be helpful to their case. But the thing you don't do during this is lie.

    Also you don't fire your attorney right before Queen for a Day. That is a clear sign that you're going to lie. If you have told your attorney something illegal that you have done, while he can not rat you out for it, he can not let you knowingly lie about it under oath. Firing your attorney the same day you're going to testify announces to everyone that you're going to lie about something.

    Hilarious.
     
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    Wow!
    This is painful!
    Like sitting through you grandson's performance in Macbeth.
     
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    And here is the connection to Hillary.


    Court documents reveal that a deal has been in the works since late January. Under the agreement, Gates could face up to 71 months on the two felony counts, but could also ask for probation without opposition if he "fully cooperates."

    In a statement of offense attached to the plea agreement, Gates admits he conspired with Manafort "in a variety of criminal schemes," including moving millions of dollars from offshore accounts without paying taxes on the money, which was disguised as loans.

    He also admits he helped Manafort avoid registering as a lobbyist for Ukrainian political figures and misleading two other firms, the Podesta Group and Mercury, on whether they had to register. The firms were paid through an advocacy group which employees knew was a "fig leaf" so they would not have register as agents of the Ukrainian regime, Mueller alleged.

    One of the more surprising details in Friday's filings was the admission by Gates that even while he was negotiating a possible agreement with Mueller, he lied to investigators. He falsely claimed that Ukraine was not discussed at a March 19, 2013, meeting attended by Manafort, a lobbyist and member of Congress and that a report about the meeting was not sent to clients in the Ukraine.

    The lawmaker who attended was Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., his office confirmed. Rohrabacher's press secretary said it was a dinner with longtime acquaintances where "the three reminisced and talked mostly about politics."

    "The subject of Ukraine came up in passing," the press secretary, Ken Grubbs, said in a statement.

    "It is no secret that Manafort represented (former Ukraine president) Viktor Yanukovych's interests, but as chairman of the relevant European subcommittee, the congressman has listened to all points of view on Ukraine. We may only speculate that Manafort needed to report back to his client that Ukraine was discussed."

    Gates lied about the 2013 dinner during a Feb. 1 sitdown with Mueller's team for what's known as a proffer meeting, where details of an agreement are hashed out. That's the same day Gates' previous lawyers asked for permission to withdraw from the case, citing "irreconcilable differences."


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    The most significant allegation is that Manafort assembled what he called a "Super VIP" group of highly influential Europeans who could push Ukraine's agenda "without any visible relationship" with the Ukrainian government, according to an email obtained by Mueller.

    Manafort paid the politicians 2 million euros from offshore accounts in 2012 and 2013 to lobby members of Congress and other U.S. officials. It's illegal for Americans to direct foreigners to lobby the U.S. without informing the Justice Department.

    The so-called "Hapsburg Group" was managed by a former European chancellor, who was not named in the indictment.

    The term chancellor is used in only a small number of countries, including Germany and Austria. The Associated Press reported last year that Mercury LLC, which was involved in the Manafort lobbying effort, employed former Austrian Chancellor Alfred Gusenbauer as an expert. He could not immediately be reached for comment.

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    Fun fact: Hitler came from Austria.
     
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    Geez! If the dog was ever to come aboard, I sure hope I could get him to understand the physics of the windward and lee rail.
     
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    I have no idea what this means but I think you just threatened to tie a rock to my tail and throw me overboard.
     
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    Oh no, I never make threats.

    Ha! Actually I thought everyone knew about the follies of pissing up wind.
     
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    Rick Gates' roles during and after the election:
    • Deputy chair of Trump's campaign
    • A Trump aide even after Manafort was ousted
    • Deputy chair of Trump's inaugural committee
    • Co-founder of Trump-blessed America First nonprofit
     
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    House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy in 2016: 'There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump'

    In a private meeting with Republican colleagues last year, House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy commented that then-presidential candidate Donald Trump and California congressional colleague Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Huntington Beach) were being paid by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    “There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy said in the recording of a June 15 exchange obtained and published by the Washington Post. At that point, House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) cut off the conversation and swore those present to secrecy.

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    On a day when the president of the United States, attended a gathering of conservatives, leading them in chants of "lock her up" against his former opponent Hilary Clinton, his senior campaign adviser is being charged with conspiracy against the United States.
     
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    Make America Treasonous Again.
     
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    Why is it so painful for you? This is what you voted for. :dunno:
     
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    So pretty much an out-of-the-loop hanger-on with no real responsibilities. :cheers:
     
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    Also, makes any testimony from him in the future utterly worthless and inadmissible without credible corroboration.

    What do you call a Special Prosecutor dropping 22 counts in exchange for "testimony" against another target?

    Suborning perjury.
     
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    Riddle me this.

    When is a felony not a felony? :cheers:
     
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    fixed that shit right up....
     
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    When a president pardons or condones it
     

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