Science Righteous dudes only! List mental illnesses

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  1. MarAzul

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  2. MarAzul

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    Did anyone suggest away if implemented, that would stop the shooter in Florida?
     
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    Being a pedophile has nothing to do with a person likely to use a gun to shoot someone.

    It's also questionable in enough cases that no blanket rule makes any sense.

    The rules for boys and older women are radically different than for girls and older men (or similar same sex situations). Hot for teacher, and all that.

    Or "Romeo and Juliet" situations.

    It makes sense to disarm guys (or women) who commit domestic violence.
     
  4. MarAzul

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    >>> Perhaps over done now though. Being accused or the police being called, is not enough to satisfy due process.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Yes. Due Process. Pesky little thing that gets in certain peoples' way.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Perhaps Chris Craig has a suggestion.
     
  8. Chris Craig

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    Can you provide evidence those kids were prescribed ritalin, that they were taking it? You offer several graphs...is there one that correlates the two? Causation without correlation.
     
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    Well Chris, I sort of hoped you would weigh in on the core question. Just exactly... well you can go read the initial post.
    Being a teacher and all, and not to leave out the ENFJ mind! It is a powerful thing when the owner has the feeling under control.
    Your thoughts here could be persuasive.
     
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    Both good questions. Neither have an easy answer.
     
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    Let's ask a question.... How many Americans have been written away over the years in mental wards, or are victims of neglect, ritualistic hazing, or much much worse? Then ask some of these poor folks if they give a shit about owning a gun. It's hilarious to me that funding mental health change is only spurned when it comes into line with questions of gun safety. Look at the amount of mentally ill Americans who are VICTIMS of violence first.
     
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    Nate is offering an implied correlation. I just want to know if he had a grapgh that actually correlated the production of ritalin, the amount of school shootings, and the number of those shooters who were actually taking ritalin.
     
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    Well I sort of wonder since I can not connect the rise in ritalin with the rise in Shootings, except with time period. It there other factors we do not know here that also rise with this time period. Such as;
    Mother working instead of raising the children,
    Father miss in the young mans life,
    I mean I can't see what I don't see.

    What I see, isn't working
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Hemmrhoids
     
  15. MarAzul

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    Another thing I can see is, how pitifully inadequate it is, to leave these unknowns to a political process.
    This rightfully should be assigned to systems analyst, to pull in all the relevant data and paint a proper image to submit to the political process.
     
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    We already have that as part of Lautenberg.
     
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    Lautenberg?
     
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    https://www.armystudyguide.com/cont...s/military_justice/lautenberg-amendment.shtml

    Those who have been convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence can't carry, even if they're in the military, which kind of restricts your ability to be in the military. But it applies to everyone.
     
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    Ouch!
    Dang, I fear this just another manifestation of the fear of arms by a man with the power to but lacking the intellect to understand.
    Who in their right mind removes a Constitutional right and a god given right to protect yourself with the force of arms when necessary, over a misdemeanor. This sort of stuff needs to be clean up while the opportunity is available.

    And it is totally ridiculous to lose a functioning warrior to this mindless law.
     
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    I actually don't have a problem with the law...those who commit domestic violence are generally not only domestic violence abusers.

    What I have a problem with is when the Navy goes overboard and anyone who's had the police called on them is flagged for it and "pre-emptively" disarmed b/c of Lautenberg, "just in case". That's actually taking someone out of the fight and off the ship due to hearsay.
     

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