Rockets changes coming

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  1. Johnny33

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    no one thought Jim Jackson of all people would be traded last season, so don't hold your breath. As for Baxter being under-sized, the best player in the NBA right now is widely regarded as an undersized PF - Elton Brand.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">no one thought Jim Jackson of all people would be traded last season, so don't hold your breath. As for Baxter being under-sized, the best player in the NBA right now is widely regarded as an undersized PF - Elton Brand.</div>
    True, but Baxter lacks a lot of the skills Brand has, such as a knack for blocking ball, ability to rack up assists, and some good post moves. Plus, there's a lot more undersized failures out of the league instead of players like Kenny Thomas, Elton Brand, or Zack Randolph.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AznxBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">True, but Baxter lacks a lot of the skills Brand has, such as a knack for blocking ball, ability to rack up assists, and some good post moves. Plus, there's a lot more undersized failures out of the league instead of players like Kenny Thomas, Elton Brand, or Zack Randolph.</div>

    Brand is averaging 2 assists/game... i would not call that "racking up assists". He compensates for his height disadvantage with a freakishly long wingspan. What I'm trying to say is just because someone is undersized doesn't make them an less capable of contributing. Charles Barkley and Dennis Rodman were both undersized PF's and they were 2 of the best rebounders in NBA history.
     
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    The Rockets should sign Travis Best. He can bring some veteran leadership to the point guard position. He's always been a good shooter from mid range, and plays under control. He has plenty of playoff experience, and played very well in the series against the Heat last year. I'm really surprised no one has given him a look this year after his playoff performance.
     
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    I think the players are tradable after Dec 15 so it wont happen just yet. As for Baxter compared to EB. Brand can shoot and has all the skills and iq to be an allstar. His height might be undersized but not his frame. Baxter has a skinny frame and underszied height and at best he's a putback player and rebounder and hustler not a reliable scorer. Baxter might be better than Swift for us but that's not saying much.
     
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    we should just bring mark jackson back to the line up and as they said travis best is also a good fit. lol, I still think we will go with someone that are old because as we seen in the past we bring in a lot of old guys. mark jackson, rod strickland, charles okley, charlie ward. I am not surprise that they ask greg anthony to come out of retirement to join the rockets
     
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    No Roster Spots No Cap Room

    We have a few expiring contracts with players nobody wants.
    Any trade has to make us younger and faster, a big SF if anybody.
    CD is gonna be GM of the yr. again if he solves this disappointing team.

    The real problem is no Chem. on Offense. With people hurt and others that cant shoot straight.
    I still dont know what our best line up is. Its whoever is out there with TMAC.
    Bowen should be playing 30+ minutes a game. L.Head, TMac, Bowen are the quickest players on the roster.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting drm2dnk:</div><div class="quote_post">I think the players are tradable after Dec 15 so it wont happen just yet. As for Baxter compared to EB. Brand can shoot and has all the skills and iq to be an allstar. His height might be undersized but not his frame. Baxter has a skinny frame and underszied height and at best he's a putback player and rebounder and hustler not a reliable scorer. Baxter might be better than Swift for us but that's not saying much.</div>
    I don't know if you've seen Baxter before. He has the same measurements as Brand and is pretty stocky.

    [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting moeinhouston:</div><div class="quote_post">No Roster Spots No Cap Room

    We have a few expiring contracts with players nobody wants.
    Any trade has to make us younger and faster, a big SF if anybody.
    CD is gonna be GM of the yr. again if he solves this disappointing team.

    The real problem is no Chem. on Offense. With people hurt and others that cant shoot straight.
    I still dont know what our best line up is. Its whoever is out there with TMAC.
    Bowen should be playing 30+ minutes a game. L.Head, TMac, Bowen are the quickest players on the roster.</div>

    The Rockets are trying to decide whether or not to request an injury exception for Bob Sura. If they request it, Bob Sura will not be allowed to play this year. The hold up is, Bob Sura feels he'll be ready sometime next year to return to the team. I'm not sure what the deadline is for the team to make a decision, but the move would free up roughly $1.8M. By then, maybe it's enough to get Sprewell to sign with the team or another free agent veteran guard.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">The Rockets are trying to decide whether or not to request an injury exception for Bob Sura. If they request it, Bob Sura will not be allowed to play this year. The hold up is, Bob Sura feels he'll be ready sometime next year to return to the team. I'm not sure what the deadline is for the team to make a decision, but the move would free up roughly $1.8M. By then, maybe it's enough to get Sprewell to sign with the team or another free agent veteran guard.</div>

    I don't want to see that greedy, ingrateful biotch on this team. + He wouldn't take a 3 year 21 mil contract w/ Minne this year. What the hell makes you think he is going to settle for 1.8 mil? He doesn't care about shiz, but more money.

    I can't believe I even cosidered having him on our team. I never really thought about this, but I am sure most of you have. KG redid his contract to make less money. That way he could have some quality players around him to get a ring. Sprewell has played with this guy for years, and the Twolves offer him less money to bring in more great players and he bitches about it!

    What kind of BS is that. He has no respect for KG.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting igotask8board:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't want to see that greedy, ingrateful biotch on this team. + He wouldn't take a 3 year 21 mil contract w/ Minne this year. What the hell makes you think he is going to settle for 1.8 mil? He doesn't care about shiz, but more money.

    I can't believe I even cosidered having him on our team. I never really thought about this, but I am sure most of you have. KG redid his contract to make less money. That way he could have some quality players around him to get a ring. Sprewell has played with this guy for years, and the Twolves offer him less money to bring in more great players and he bitches about it!

    What kind of BS is that. He has no respect for KG.</div>

    Well it comes down to cost per game. Sprewell wanted the full MLE (5.6M) to play an 82 game season. This equals to $68,292.00 per game. So taking the $1.8M and dividing it by $68,292.00 equates to about 26 games worth.

    So if Sprewell only has to play 26 games he might sign for the $1.8M.

    He's an idiot, but his best years came under the coaching of JVG. The Rockets could definitely use him this year and Spree will be on his best behavior hoping to cash in as a free agent next summer. If he can come in and play a role in getting the Rockets back into the playoff picture, he's likely to get the MLE from a team next season. It's a win-win situation for both sides.
     
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    F no to Spree.
    Rockets have got desperate but not crazy. Nobody mention Spree again please. If he is the answer, we need to tear down and rebuild now.

    If a roster spot is open there isn't many guys out there that are capable of making a huge impact. REBUILDING at our weak spots with YOUTH and Quickness should be the focus.
    Team Leaders in
    QUICKNESS: L.Head TMac Bowen
    Physicalness: Howard Deke
    That just makes me SAD and DEPRESSED to think about.
     
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    sprewell is the only valuable free agent thats available.. but hes not coming to Rockets. Because he doesn't want a minimal contract... Plus he hasnt played professionally for quite a while, he will be rusty, who knows if he still has his pace...He isn't the youngest of people either. If their arent any players of value to trade to make the Rox a better team i dont think its wise to make changes just for the sake of it..
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Locke:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know if you've seen Baxter before. He has the same measurements as Brand and is pretty stocky.

    [​IMG]

    as for who to pick up.. i hear Tim Thomas is available, but i'd stop watching the Rockets if they pick him up.
     
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    If the Rockets are looking for a strong perimeter defender and decent distributor of the ball, Earl Watson looks to be available. John Hollinger considered him to be the best defensive point guard ("by far") last season. He's a below average outside shooter, however.
     
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    Well, the decision by the Nuggets to sign Watson in the first place was baffling to me. They already had two point guards who could only play that position, and they brought in Watson, a guy who should be getting 25 minutes per in any system, on any team? There was talks at the time of Denver shipping Miller around, but nothing has come of it, and now they look to offload Watson. With Denver pretty much in need of a shooting guard, maybe a Watson for Anderson deal might work? I'm pretty sure the salary doesn't work out, but Watson is definitely worth trading Anderson for.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Locke:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, the decision by the Nuggets to sign Watson in the first place was baffling to me. They already had two point guards who could only play that position, and they brought in Watson, a guy who should be getting 25 minutes per in any system, on any team? There was talks at the time of Denver shipping Miller around, but nothing has come of it, and now they look to offload Watson. With Denver pretty much in need of a shooting guard, maybe a Watson for Anderson deal might work? I'm pretty sure the salary doesn't work out, but Watson is definitely worth trading Anderson for.</div>
    The main reason the Nuggets signed Watson was to keep him away from other teams in the Western Conference. One of those teams was your Rockets, and also the Lakers were in serious talks with him. They also wanted to use him in the playoffs as the "Tony Parker Stopper" if they faced the Spurs in the post season.

    Having Watson gives the Nuggets a lot of options. They could likely trade Andre Miller for a shooting guard (Steve Francis or Jamal Crawford) until Nene got injured for the rest of the year. Now the Nuggets have to address two needs if they want to make the playoffs. Currently they are still in the playoff race and playing .500 ball, so I don't expect any moves to be made. However, if they start fading and teams behind them start surging, they will be forced to trade Dre or Watson.
     
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    which players are tradeable for the rox? I mean jon barry, Derek anderson, david wesley, and ryan bowen arent the most attractive players..

    Maybe the fact that some of them have expiring contracts will make the offer more attractive..
    Juwan is a probability but hes not as attractive either with a big contract. He isnt playing as good as he did last year. Would they actually trade players that they have just acquired?? Rafer and Stromile are questionable too.

    I can't believe they're paying moochie norris 4 million a year just to sit on the bench.. Hes not even that good. Thats almost as bad as Jerome james 5 million a year.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting aznkillabeez:</div><div class="quote_post">which players are tradeable for the rox? I mean jon barry, Derek anderson, david wesley, and ryan bowen arent the most attractive players..</div>
    You would consider trading Ryan Bowen? Are you crazy? He's the heart of this team!

    But, yea the Rockets don't really have anyone to trade. I really don't see the Rockets trading anybody this season. And if they do, it won't affect the team that much.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">The Rockets should sign Travis Best. He can bring some veteran leadership to the point guard position. He's always been a good shooter from mid range, and plays under control. He has plenty of playoff experience, and played very well in the series against the Heat last year. I'm really surprised no one has given him a look this year after his playoff performance.</div>

    Not a bad idea, but I believe he's under contract overseas...correct me if Im wrong...

    I dont believe we'll request and injury exception because everybody seems to be confident that Sura will return in full healthy...

    as for who we can trade...I think Wesley is our only true asset...its too early to give up on Swift and Alston, and I do think we should give Baxter a look...I was really impressed with him preseason as a rebounder and somebody who can score inside...
     

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