Honestly... the only thing i liked about kobe's game today was the game tieing 3... it was INSANE! But i was not satisfied with his performance... ok so the lakers need him to score ryt? but he took 44 shots and only made a petty 19!!! OMG At least Tmac has the decency to pass to his teammates and ask them for help during the game: Kobe 19-44 FG's 53pts 2 assists Tmac 7-24 30 pts 10 assists Yea, i know kobe's teammates couldnt score even if they were wide open. but kobe could have at least 'drive and dished' or maybe go up for a layup against yao and pass all of a sudden to kwame of something like that... Anyway we lost another one as kobe says 'Bring on the next one'
<div class="quote_poster">kobe23 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Honestly... the only thing i liked about kobe's game today was the game tieing 3... it was INSANE! But i was not satisfied with his performance... ok so the lakers need him to score ryt? but he took 44 shots and only made a petty 19!!! OMG At least Tmac has the decency to pass to his teammates and ask them for help during the game: Kobe 19-44 FG's 53pts 2 assists Tmac 7-24 30 pts 10 assists Yea, i know kobe's teammates couldnt score even if they were wide open. but kobe could have at least 'drive and dished' or maybe go up for a layup against yao and pass all of a sudden to kwame of something like that... Anyway we lost another one as kobe says 'Bring on the next one'</div> Fair criticism, Kobe was forcing last night. He looked like Gilbert Arenas with all the off balanced jumpshots he took. I was glad the Lakers only shot 4 three pointers heading into halftime, but when Yao Ming has forced every one of your big men into foul trouble, Kobe needs to attack more and get Yao in foul trouble by driving at him or seeting up a teammate for the And1, while Yao isn't in proper defensive position.
Last night was just pitiful. We consistently dug outselves holes and couldn't stay out of them very often. We did show some good resiliancy by making the comeback at the end of regulation, but we can't fall apart like that in OT. We had a four point lead with about 50 seconds left and ended up losing because of two boneheaded moves by Kobe. You don't foul on the three, if you can't rotate to get him, leave him open, he's got a better chance of missing a trey than he does all three FTs. If he makes, ok, but at least it wasn't your fault. And then the travel was just as bad. However, hitting our FTs would have helped. Odom only hitting 10/16 is simply unacceptable. Overall, the game last night was not pleasant. The only positive I saw was that ability to make that comeback. That's it.
I really liked the defensive rotations in crunch time last night, and Kwame Brown played some inspired basketball. The player who had a tough time of it was Luke Walton. In the first two meetings, he was the catalyst for the Lakers. JVG made the right adjustments on Luke to prevent him from breaking his defense down. In the first two games, the Rockets tried getting away with Luther Head and Rafer Alston defending Luke. He was able to back them in the post and breakdown Houston's interior defense. Last night JVG had bigger players on Luke, with Chuck Hayes, TMac, and Battier rotating on him. Luke couldn't power past them and the Rockets didn't have to double team him.
Ok Kobe scores 53, but it didn't really impress me he took more shots then Yao and T-Mac combined (19-44) and had only 2 assists.
Kobe played horribly last night. He was definetly jacking up shots. The only positive I see from his game last night was his last minute heriocs. Other than that, he was horrible
^^^I agree... <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Overall, the game last night was not pleasant. The only positive I saw was that ability to make that comeback. That's it. </div> as a rockets fan I wasn't impressed with our win last night...we have got to learn how to close teams out down the stretch...if we play that way against S.A, Phoenix, or Dallas we lose that game...
besides being the most obvious travel ever, i felt it definitly had to be called not only cause its fair, but also if im not mistaken, Kobe stepped out of bounds on the game tying 3 to force overtime.. it bothered me but like most of you said, its the end of the game and alot of calls will not be called, but the travel called evened it up for me. hell of an intense game though.
Kobe did travel, but he did not step out of bounds on the game tying three. He went out of bounds after he shot the ball
Kobe clearly travelled on the play. They showed the replay after it happened, and he travelled not once, but twice on the play. Here's the video Durvasa. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1lbc0_kobe-fouling-tmac
not that I know of but if I get one I'll post it...but I recorded the game and watched the replay of it last night on ESPN and Kobe clearly flopped and in the process of doing so hit tracy mcgrady when he was shooting.
<div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">not that I know of but if I get one I'll post it...but I recorded the game and watched the replay of it last night on ESPN and Kobe clearly flopped and in the process of doing so hit tracy mcgrady when he was shooting.</div> It's obvious Yao set a moving screen on Kobe, which resulted in Kobe bumping into TMac. It should've been a no-call. It's similar to when a defensive player on the kicking team runs into the punt returner after the punt returner's teammate gives him a bump into his back and the momentum carries him into the person trying to catch the football.
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe clearly travelled on the play. They showed the replay after it happened, and he travelled not once, but twice on the play. Here's the video Durvasa. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1lbc0_kobe-fouling-tmac</div> I watched that replay like 5 times in a row, and Yao was set when Kobe bumped into him. He moved after the pass off to Tracy, but his body wasn't shifting when the contact occurred. That was just a very quick, solid pick by Yao. Great play.
That was a hell of a game and Kobe's game tying three was incredible, but if they didn't call a travel on that play, that would have been bogus. That was a pretty blatant travel, and I'm surprised Kobe made such a mental error; usually he doesn't. However, to NOT call that would have been more ridiculous. It's one thing for "players to control the outcome" but it's not like we can throw all the rules out the window in the process. That was not a "ticky tacky" call, it was an obvious travelling violation. Good call by the ref, tough loss for the Lakers. Kobe's incredible.
<div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I watched that replay like 5 times in a row, and Yao was set when Kobe bumped into him. He moved after the pass off to Tracy, but his body wasn't shifting when the contact occurred. That was just a very quick, solid pick by Yao. Great play.</div> That's the definition of a moving pick. You have to anchor yourself once you release the ball. The problem on the play is the backside official called the foul on Kobe, and the official with the better view (the same one we have in the video) didn't overrule him. It should have been an offensive foul on Yao, or preferably a no call on Yao or Kobe. Also what the hell is Kwame thinking on that play, he's in no man's land guarding empty space.
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That's the definition of a moving pick. You have to anchor yourself once you release the ball. </div> Here's the official rule: <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Section III--By Screening A player who sets a screen shall not (1) assume a position nearer than a nor-mal step from an opponent, if that opponent is stationary and unaware of the screen-er's position, or (2) make illegal contact with an opponent when he assumes a posi-tion at the side or front of an opponent, or (3) assume a position so near to a moving opponent that illegal contact cannot be avoided by the opponent without changing direction or stopping, or (4) move laterally or toward an opponent being screened, after having assumed a legal position. The screener may move in the same direction and path of the opponent being screened. In (3) above, the speed of the opponent being screened will determine what the screener's stationary position may be. This position will vary and may be one to two normal steps or strides from his opponent. </div> I think you can make the case based on the part I bolded. Watching the replay several times, Kobe was caught trailing and he tried to squeeze between Yao and Tracy to contest the shot. I thought Yao got set just before Kobe ran into him, but according to the rules you have to give the defender enough time to get out of the way. I don't know if that was Kobe initiating the contact, or Yao. Strictly speaking, you might be right. But I honestly never see that get called. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The problem on the play is the backside official called the foul on Kobe, and the official with the better view (the same one we have in the video) didn't overrule him. It should have been an offensive foul on Yao, or preferably a no call on Yao or Kobe.</div> Ok, I think an offensive foul or no call would be justified here. But if the contact is deemed a no call, does that give Kobe license to ricochet off Yao and bump into the shooter? Because it certainly looked like Kobe flopped to accentuate the contact.
