OT Roe V Wade In Trouble

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  1. Everything Beagle

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    Classic Reagan Racist Misogyny™, going back to the welfare queen narrative.
     
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    Exactly. The ability to switch political sides without consequence is a symptom of a particular brand of (often white, often male, often rich) privilege.
     
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    *Edit*
    Dang. Guess I should have gotten a screenshot

    Story about a pregnant woman in Tennessee who died because doctors were afraid to do surgery that would have saved her.
     
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    We have a slogan

    Right to life
    That's a lie
    They don't care if women die
     
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    I liked it. But I hate it.
     
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    It's always been about punishing women.
     
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    For a party that bitches so much about being censored and freedom of speech, they sure do want to control a lot of things.
     
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    Supreme Court Rocked by New Leak on Bitter Split over Idaho Emergency Abortion Ruling
    The Supreme Court has been hit by a new damaging leak over its abortion decisions in a fresh blow to its embattled reputation—and a hint of even more leaks to come.

    Intimate details of months of disagreement among the nine justices were reported at length by CNN Monday, just hours after President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris both backed major reforms to the court, with the president accusing justices of being “above the law.” CNN also said its report was the first of a series, suggesting more leaks ahead.

    The leak to CNN comes a little more than two years after the court was rocked by the leak of Justice Samuel Alito’s entire opinion overturning Roe v. Wade. Ironically, the court itself accidentally published the opinion on abortion access in Idaho in June this year, a day before it was formally announced.

    The justices are likely to be extremely concerned at the level of detail CNN has obtained about their internal divisions over the case Moyle v. United States. It was prompted by Idaho introducing an extreme abortion ban in the wake of the Dobbs decision overturning Roe v. Wade, which would have criminalized doctors performing abortions under any circumstances. That move prompted the federal government to introduce formal guidance that hospitals receiving federal Medicare funding had to offer emergency abortions—which Idaho’s Republican attorney general tried to challenge.

    Initially Idaho had the case taken up as an emergency by the Supreme Court and got an emergency stay of the federal Medicare move in January on the court’s so-called “shadow docket.”

    CNN revealed Monday that the stay was issued 6-3, splitting along ideological lines, a split which had never been known before and should be a secret.

    But that split was then followed by sixth months of fracturing among the conservative justices, the outlet revealed. Among the leaked facts were that after a public hearing on the case in April, the justices’ private vote revealed no clear majority for resolution. Private votes of the justices are considered one of the court’s most closely guarded secrets.

    Conservatives John Roberts, the chief justice, and Brett Kavanaugh both “expressed an openness to ending the case without resolving it,” CNN reported.

    The leak also reveals that Roberts then abandoned normal protocol and did not assign the writing of the majority decision to any of the justices, leading to months of negotiations.

    Instead he, Kavanaugh and conservative Amy Coney Barrett worked on an opinion which would call the case “improvidently granted,” a rare move to essentially admit that the court should never have taken it up.

    But CNN reveals that the other conservatives—Samuel Alito, the author of the Dobbs decision, Clarence Thomas and Neil Gorsuch—argued from April until June that Idaho should have its abortion ban upheld. Alito was described as “adamant” that the Biden administration was in the wrong, CNN said.

    The report reveals that Roberts, Barrett and Kavanaugh were then offered a compromise in “negotiations” with liberals Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor, which was eventually what prevailed: a ruling not that the court had made a mistake in taking the case, but that Idaho had not shown “irreparable harm” by the Supreme Court setting aside its emergency stay of the federal guidelines. The liberals accepted, leading to the June ruling.

    Such a lengthy and extensive leak of internal disagreements and the specifics of procedures and draft opinions are likely to cause extreme concern inside the court and particularly for Roberts. A lengthy probe into the 2022 Roe v. Wade leak— called “appalling” by Roberts—saw U.S. Marshals demand access to clerks’ private texts and emails but did not find a culprit.

    The Daily Beast has reached out to the Supreme Court for comment.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/supre...er-split-over-idaho-emergency-abortion-ruling
     
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    Alabama not only outlaws abortion but also prohibits leaving State for abortion. Court hearing arguments on that. There are no internal passports in the US. Except in unusual circumstances like someone on parole, residents are free to travel wherever they choose within the country.

    So how would the law be enforced? Would Alabama require residents to inform state government if they leave the state? Would girls and women be forced to undergo state mandated medical exams before and after?

    Creepy weird.
     
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    I was trying to think whether there were any other laws in any other state (unrelated to abortion) that contains a similar clause. States where Marijuana is still illegal don't attempt to prosecute residents for traveling to Oregon to smoke. No one was ever arrested for traveling to Vegas to gamble or hiring prostitutes. But then I thought about assisted suicide.

    https://deathwithdignity.org/resources/traveling-to-oregon-and-vermont-to/

    According to this, Oregon and Vermont have now removed residency requirements for assisted suicide. But that doesn't necessarily protect anyone who helps their lives on be travel for such a procedure.

     
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    Some states criminalize assisting suicide but they don't penalize person who attempts suicide if they end up surviving. At least don't think so.
     
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    There's no law against Arkansas building a wall around their state.

    barfo
     
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    Associated Press reported on over a hundred pregnant women turned away from emergency rooms due to abortion bans. Two women miscarried in public restrooms. One needed blood transfusion after nine hours in emergency room with untreated ectopic pregnancy. Another woman was told to go home and miscarry naturally even though ectopic pregnancy does not miscarry naturally. After bleeding for days she returned. This time they had to surgically remove part of her reproductive system due to sepsis.

    Federal law requires emergency rooms provide treatment including abortion in medical emergencies. States ignore the law and are trying to get it overturned.

    They are not pro life. They are anti woman.
     
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    Ohio was one of several states with "trigger laws" that automatically banned abortion if Roe v Wade was overturned.

    When Roe was overturned Ohio now banned all abortion after 6 weeks without exception. (A citizens' initiative later changed the law.)

    Dr. Caitlin Barnard, an Indianapolis obstetrician, received a call from a colleague in Ohio regarding a patient, a 10 year old rape victim who was 6 weeks and 3 days pregnant and therefore could not get an abortion in Ohio. Dr. Barnard agreed to help the child who was taken across state lines for a safe legal abortion.

    Dr. Barnard, without identifying the patient, went to the media to make it clear exactly what overturning Roe meant to women and girls.

    The entire right wing media enterprise went into overdrive, 24/7 denouncing story as a hoax. Fabrication. Never happened. Fox called Dr. Barnard "an abortion activist masquerading as a doctor". President Biden was scolded for referencing the case, Stupid senile president falling for a hoax.

    The Republican attorney general of Ohio went on Fox to say there was no report of such a crime. He said he knew Ohio police and they would leave no stone unturned to catch the perpetrator of rape of a child.

    That very day, police in Columbus, Ohio announced they had made an arrest in the case. The suspect acknowledged having raped the child, twice.

    So naturally all these media that for days had called the story a hoax retracted, apologizing to traumatized child and to Dr. Barnard. Yeah, in your dreams. Not one retraction. Instead the story died faster than a mouse at a cat convention. No mention of the arrest, nothing. Dead.

    Except to Indiana's Republican attorney general who announced he would do everything he could to prosecute Dr. Barnard for daring to let the little slut escape the consequences of her slutty ways. First, he charged Dr. Barnard with failing to file appropriate paperwork for abortion on a minor. That case was thrown out when she showed she had indeed filed the paperwork in the required time. He then said he would try to have her medical license taken away for HIPAA violations because she talked about the case. The medical review board agreed she had violated HIPAA even though she released no identifying information about the child. They reprimanded her and fined her $3000 but did not revoke or suspend her license. The attorney general then sued her employer, Indiana University. That case was just thrown out of court but meanwhile Indiana University decided to self censor by prohibiting public discussion.

    Indiana has since outlawed abortion.
     
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    Texas attorney general also seeking medical records of people seeking gender affirming care.

    Florida abortion rights initiative has been certified for the ballot. But DeSantis is doing his personal audit of ballot petitions, including having cops knock on doors of people who signed to put initiative on the ballot, asking if they want to change their minds.
     
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    Florida governor DeSantis is not only sending cops to harass people who signed petition to put reproductive rights initiative on ballot. He tried to get state supreme court to remove it. The court, all Republicans, most appointed by him, refused. DeSantis replied by claiming without evidence they were paid off by the Jews.

    Trump and Vance attack Haitians. DeSantis attacks Jews. Maybe they can go after Cubans as well and guarantee losing Florida.
     
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    And Pudding Fingers still has the nerve to continually refer to it as "the free state of Florida". They must have banned dictionaries from Florida schools also.......
     

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