OT Roe V Wade In Trouble

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  1. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    A medical procedure is medical care

    It can improve health. Physical health if the pregnancy is causing issues or mental health if the pregnancy is a result of rape etc
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    It certainly is medical care. You're required to have a medical degree to give abortions for a reason...
     
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  3. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    She is pissed that men think they have any right to think they can understand or have a say in abortion, and I don't blame her.
     
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    mmm we will have to agree to disagree, though it is semantics i suppose, but i consider it more like a procedure. Removal of a wart, etc. except warts dont have potential to become a human being.
    Care, to me, is treatment for something wrong.
     
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    Orion Bailey Forum Troll

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    Im not talking about pregnancies causing health issues.
    I said that from the start.
    We have been discussing healthy pregnancies, of which the Mother chooses to abort, due to the pregnancy being an inconvenience.

    i already addressed mental issues as well…
     
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    all medical procedures require a degree or license, do they not?

    i dont think thats a qualifier…
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Well, they don't now, since you killed them! Wart murderer!

    barfo
     
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    Next up will be the outrage at birth control or sterilization....the god argument that nature intends for everyone to procreate and protect the integrity of sperm and eggs.....like I said...we're heading in Taliban territory ....after that society will create eunichs and perform clitorectomies to stop unwanted procreation and eliminate the female sex drive from the male experience....yes...clitorectomy is practiced by fundamentalist Muslims to keep the wives from straying.
     
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    well thats her issue. Not mine. If she is unable to handle other people discussing abortion whether she agrees with the opinions of the accusers or not is her issue. Not mine.
    She can join the conversation in a mature way or yell at people to go fuck themselves, but don't think she isn't every bit as judgmental as she claims others to be.

    Ive made it plain and crystal clear, i would never vote against abortion.
    Its my right to discuss things though, is it not?
    Maybe i change rr7’s mind? Maybe he changes mine? Is it forced?
    We were having a respectable conversation in my opinion.
    Why is it so bad to her we, I, am discussing this, to the point she makes a post telling people, me, to go fuck themselves?

    it was clearly a passive aggressive jab at me.
    ive apologized to her in private in the past for reasons im not sure of, other than she got upset last time i entered this abortion topic as well. But denied cause it was found too difficult to forgive me as if i committed some atrocity…like i picket abortion clinics or something..

    i already said i don't want to discuss other people like this here, because well, you know why. Please don't drag me into something I'm only gonna get blamed for….

    I already know in her eyes im a mysoginistic woman hater and suppressor…
     
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    ya got me.
     
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    The only ones enraged are those telling others to go fuck themselves.
    A conversation was being had… nothing more.

    smfh….
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    If it requires a medical degree it is medical care. As any medical procedure is medical care.
     
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    Like i said. Semantics. I explained my opinion of the differences.
    Regardless the pregnancy is not a health risk. So its a choice of convenience, or the lack of.

    I wonder how many children alive throughout time could have been considered an inconvenience?
     
  14. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Your more than welcome to have discussions. This is a forum after all.

    Im just saying I see where she is coming from.
     
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    Then you arent seeing her passive aggressive behavior towards me. You think the timing of her post was coincidence?

    you agree i should go fuck myself for discussing this? Or bringing up the questions i do?

    because that is 100% what she meant regardless of the coyness of it.
     
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    Pregnancy is a health risk. A health risk to the mother, and a health risk to society as a whole.

    Forcing women to carry unwanted pregnancies to term has been shown to result in higher crime and poverty rates.

    Removing that restriction results in lower crime rates and poverty rates.

    And...

    '4th Trimester' Problems Can Have Long-Term Effects On A Mom's Health
    https://www.npr.org/sections/health...s-can-have-long-term-effects-on-a-moms-health


    This sounds healthy...
    Long-term effects of pregnancy women don’t talk about
    https://www.piedmont.org/living-better/long-term-effects-of-pregnancy-women-dont-talk-about
     
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    okaaayyy but pregnancies are required for the human race to continue…
    now you are arguing semantics.
    You know what else is a health risk? Breathing, stepping outside of ones home.
    plugging something into an outlet.

    Health care has never been better. To state pregnancies are a health risk like not wearing mask, if you will, is not an apple to apple comparison…
     
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    Survival of the human race, and breathing being a health risk has really seemed to devolve in to the point of arguing just for the sake of arguing, something you always claim you hate so much on here.
    The core issue, healthy or not, is a woman's right to choose, regardless of why she makes that choice.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Okaaaay... And these are risks you might want to take if you're interested in reproducing.

    Probably not results you'd be interested in if you didn't want to reproduce.
     
  20. Orion Bailey

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    okaaay but if one didnt want to reproduce there are many ways to enjoy sex without getting pregnant.
     

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