OT Roe V Wade In Trouble

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  1. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

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    My good friend is a devout practicing Catholic. She was taught abortion is always wrong. But she said she can't judge what someone does in a situation she herself never faced.
     
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    So, sounds like we’re in agreement. Pro-choice early on. Medical necessity late term.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Late-term non-medical abortions are the veal of abortions.

    Very tender with just the perfect marbling of fat.
     
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    But late term abortions that aren't medically necessary very rarely ever happen.

    By allowing government overreach in the hopes of preventing something that basically never happens we will be causing far greater loss of life and suffering...

    This is not acceptable. And we should be very vocal about that.
     
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    If it basically never happens, I don’t see how it causes far greater loss of life and suffering. I’m okay with leaving the decision to the woman and her doctor as to whether it’s medically necessary.
     
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    Because the radical states will outlaw most/all abortions causing women to make a choice between having babies they do not want/aren't ready for, and having a far more dangerous DIY option.

    This will result in far higher crime rates and lower economic output.

    So in trying to forcibly prohibit something that very rarely ever happens and has no negative impact on society we're going to make us all suffer more, and there will be far more deaths by women trying to handle it themselves. .
     
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  7. crandc

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    Late term abortions are less than 2% of all abortions. They are medical emergencies for the woman, severe fetal defects that don't show on earlier tests, or occasionally denial. Rape victims, especially very young, can't face the fact they are pregnant from rape, keep telling themselves their period is late due to stress, until they just can't deny it any longer.
    I can't see punishing these women.
    But punishing and shaming women and girls is precisely what forced birthers are all about. It's why they oppose anything that can reduce unwanted pregnancy and anything that helps women with children make ends meet.
     
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    I always finish my morning newspaper with Dear Abby.

    Some years ago laws were passed making it easier for adults who had been molested or raped as children to bring charges.

    A woman wrote to Abby. She knew her husband was raping their teenage daughters but the bible says the husband is head of the family as Christ is head of the church and women have the duty to be submissive. She taught her daughters that and also to bear their cross patiently. The daughters, now young adults, had brought charges of rape against their father. And the mother was outraged that she had become a pariah in her neighborhood. After all, she was bringing up her daughters in accordance with the bible. It was a Christian home! How dare people be mean to her?

    Abby wasn't having any. Don't recall exact reply but something like a mother's first duty is to protect her children.

    Yeah. A mother mouse will fight to defend her children. This woman let them be raped. For years. Because her god said so.

    Around the same time charges were brought against a minister who, you guessed it, railed against birth control and abortion, for repeatedly raping his three daughters. By the time they were out of their teens, they had had 10 abortions between them. Pregnant by their father.
    If you cheered over turning Roe you have to own this. That you think it would have been better for these teens to birth 10 children of incest.
     
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    Because all abortions will be made illegal regardless of circumstances in alot of places.

    Alot more back alley abortions.

    Scores of women who have partial miscarriages or has other issues were the fetus has passed and they can't get it removed...which we have already seen since Roe V Wade was overturned can't get medical help until they are near death will end up dying.

    And that's just a couple of examples.
     
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    I think I’d pay any money I have to fight this guy. Resulting in his death of course.
     
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    He's not worth spending your life in prison.
     
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    Fine. In the middle of nowhere.
     
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    Did you know they filmed parts of The Truman Show in Matt's childhood home?
     
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    I did not.
     
  16. Chris Craig

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    It wouldn't be much of a fight and wouldn't be worth the consequences.
     
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    We were talking in the theoretical, Chris. If it was decided that abortion was permitted outright for the first two trimesters, but only allowed for medical reasons in the third; and if virtually no third trimester abortions occur at all as was suggested, how does that drastically increase women’s suffering?

    I’m well aware that many states will choose to ban all abortions as a result of the recent SCOTUS decision.
     
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    Have chosen, my guy... will choose was last month.
     
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    True. Thanks for the correction.
     
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    There are big differences among disabilities. A child with no brain function is a lot different from one who is neat sighted. I have not seen evidence that doctors are falsely telling patients the fetus had severe disabilities.
     
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