Roll call: Can anyone explain Bogans starting?

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    such sweet thunder Member Staff Member Moderator

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    I think, and I have no empirical evidence for this, that the shooting guard is a more streaky position than say power forwards. As the title of the position suggests, shooting guards shoot more often than other players. The most important time in a game for stopping a shooting guard, to me at least, is the beginning of the first and third quarters when they are looking to hit a couple of buckets and get into the flow of the game.

    Bogans struggles with big guards. That's not such a big deal until you consider the fact that the Bulls' competition in the playoffs will be Atlanta (Joe Johnson), New York (Landry Fields), Miami (Wade), Orlando (Richardson), and the Celtics (Allen), all of whom feature big guards. The Bulls are not playing the Golden State Warriors in the playoffs.
     
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    Okay it's prediction time: I think Brewer begins starting on Wednesday or Friday. It's possible to argue that Bogans should have started against Ben Gordon -- I wouldn't agree -- but it's certainly an argument that can be made. You need Brewer in the lineup on Saturday against Wade. I think Thibodeau begins starting him against either Charlotte or Indiana so he can get his feet wet before Saturday's showdown.
     
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    Don't see it...not as long as the team's winning.

    If they hit an extended losing streak, Thibs may go with the old "just wanted to shake things up" reasoning. Until then, Tommy Edwards will continue with "Frooom Kentucky..."
     
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    I don't think things like streaks can be predicted. I think we should consider the unusual possibility of lining up our five best players for their positions out there and starting with our best foot forward, rather than go with the much more conventional approach of starting a terrible "defense first" player who invites opponents to double team our better players and, despite the defensive rationale for his being there, has been torched pretty much continuously by opposing players.
     
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    I buy this story. A few additions:

    1). This argument would be valid for playing Bogans over JJ (not saying I agree with it), but not for playing Bogans over Brewer and Korver. For what they do, Korver and Brewer are both pretty consistent. Neither are boneheads.

    2). Thibs seems like a control freak to me. Right now it is only a minor annoyance, but I wonder how big of an issue it will become. The screaming he does on the sidelines, and his insistence on calling all the plays strike me as unnecessary at best and counter productive at worse. I see three different possibilities:

    a). It ends up not being an issue at all. Either the players get used to it, or Thibs has the ability to temper it when it really matters.

    b). We see a redo of the Skiles era where in 2-3 years the players have tuned him out and the team spirals downward.

    c). His hard-headedness never reaches a critical point, but it prevents the team from reaching its top speed limit. This option might be the most problematic, because the problem would be hard to detect. We're consistently a 50 win team, but when unique situations occur that don't follow the script, we break down.

    It's in this kind of way that Phil Jackson is a great coach. He seems like one of the only coaches that has a great grasp on what not to do. It's why his really talented teams consistently manage to win championships.
     
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