Romney and Health Care in Mass: Is it a problem?

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    Are you really questioning whether or not politicians say things just to get votes?
     
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    There is no discrete point where a fetus becomes a human. A human embryo is very similar to the embryo of various other creatures and it's a continuous process during (at least a part of) gestation that gene expression separates it from how other animal embryos develop. Most doctors and biologists seem to agree that it's not what we'd consider to be distinctly human in the first trimester and that it is in the third trimester.

    So it's during the second trimester that the developing fetus develops enough human characteristic to be clearly distinguished as a human. Thus, I think abortion for any reason should be allowed in the first trimester and only to save the life of the mother beyond that.

    I'm not a doctor or a biologist, this is just my understanding. I've never had an issue with people who feel differently than I do about abortion...I can easily understand and merit differing viewpoints on this issue.
     
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    no, how else would republicans win elections?
     
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    ...and Romney is going to be different how?
     
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    That was the point of the question... in order to have a view on abortion, one needs to have a view on when something becomes a human life. It is entirely reasonable to believe that something with the complete DNA structure of a human is a human life.

    What gets ridiculous is the strawman of those being sarcastic with the "eating an apple is murder because it could have been nutrients that led to human life".
     
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    You brought up Bush's speeches. You looked silly. I accept your apology.
     
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    This forum won't allow me to post enough characters to point out examples from Obama's campaign.
     
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    It's too bad Bill Clinton is considered to be on the far right wing of his party. In the early 90s I considered myself a DLC Democrat.
     
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    We'll see in 2012.
     
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    Ah, the Dr. Mengele approach.
     
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    Bush didn't lie in Klinky's quotes, though. Read them again.
     
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    Bush loved big government. He may not have lied in the specific quotes, but small government was lip service to him.
     
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    Like all life, there is no beginning or end, only the ebb and flow of continuity, mutation, evolution, and metamorphosis.
     
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    i hope the gop puts up someone awesome so i can vote for them
     
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    This.
     
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    Did you miss the word "human"? I even put it in italics originally for you.
     
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    Hey... me too! What does that candidate represent for you?
     
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    Just as an egg becomes a bird when it breathes it's first air, a human fetus becomes a human "life" when it breathes it's first air.

    I don't have to have this or any other view in order to have a view on abortion, because my view is that not being able to give birth. nor desiring to raise more children, it's none of my business.

    Unless you are willing to step up and raise every unwanted baby in the world until they become a responsible adult, it's none of yours either.

    There is nothing ridiculous or sarcastic in my post about how I view the chain of life, and it's certainly no strawman. It's just doesn't fit into your narrow parameters and false suppositions.
     
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