Romney takes lead in Electoral College Projection

Everything in life is debateable, which is how we find ourselves solving the worlds problems on this board. I wouldnt say Obama is my ideal candidate or that he is perfect in any of these topics. Given our choice of candidates however he does lean more towards the people and my way of thinking in these areas. He at least publicly comes out for gay marrage, equal pay for women, and like it or not Obamacare is a step in the right direction, it has made the healthcare issue a topic for discussion. Romneys plan of destroying Obamacare and doing "something else" just isnt enough.

 

I disagree, I think healthcare and education are human rights. I also think planned parenthood is a social necessity

 

yeah...I am trying not to get into the usual "but dont you understand what he has done wrong" thing. I really want to know why a smart person would line up for more abuse. What is it about the guy that no matter what he says or does, he may winn a seconed trem.... I just dont get it, it is beyond my comprehension...

 

Yeah, El Prez... why are you an Obama lover?

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How are healthcare and education human rights? If you were on a deserted island, who would be responsible for giving you your "rights" of healthcare and education? It just doesn't make sense.

 

Oh yeah. Going to a Moveon.org rally later tonight! gonna be epic!

 

Because being President of the US is a position of great power and control. And what married man wouldn't like that for a change?

 

Wow. You don't understand why a smart person would vote for Obama and can't even comprehend the idea of voting for Obama?

Obama steped into a big old pile of poop thanks to 8 years of Bush. Hard for me to tell if the employment rate and deficit can all be attributed to him or a matter of circumstances, but it's not like he took over a great economic situation and ruined it. Also, there are many different factors when people decide to vote, not jus the economy.

I'm for Romeny, but am scared we might return to the Republican policies of Bush. And if Romney does no better than Obama on the economy, I think the country loses out as I don't expect Romney to be very good at foreign affairs, rights for woman, talking care of the elderly and the sick and host of other areas.

It amazes how people think it is all good with one canidate and all bad with another. There are pros and cons for each canidate and it depends what your priorties are and what you think the canidate will do in that area. But to question why a smart person would vote for Obama and take the abuse and not comprenhend why someone would vote for Obama . . . well is not a "smart" thing say.

 

So, after sifting through the right-wing misdirection, we're left with Obama is ahead 294-244.

How is that huge news?

 

And I don't know what it is you think he's done wrong.

 

Danny Westneat, a Seattle Times columnist, pretty well summed it up for me why I still support Obama:

"We can fight about the details, or whether you like these things, but he stopped the economic free fall, ended the Iraq war, re-regulated Wall Street, saved the car industry, passed national health insurance, got bin Laden, mandated a doubling of car-fuel efficiencies, ended 'don't ask, don't tell' and jump-started, via the stimulus bill, the green-energy industry."

On the other hand, my list of likes under Bush was much shorter. As far as the economy goes, unfettered regulation is what caused the housing bubble and financial crisis...so re-embracing that does not appeal. From a budget standpoint, I don't believe Romney's assertion that he will cut taxes, increase defense spending and reduce the deficit. I wish it was true (who wouldn't...it's what we want to hear), but I don't believe it (sorry, Denny).

Personally, I wish both sides could accept that either candidate has merits and that the U.S. will survive just fine regardless of who is elected. While I like one better than the other, I don't get the need people have to make their favorite look like a saint and the other stupid or evil.

 

Seriously, if I were single, I would head to the nearest Obama election night party I could find. If he wins, there's going to be a lot of celebration sex and if he loses, then there's going to be even more consolation sex. I went to Clinton parties in both 92 and 96 and a Kerry pity party in 2004, and it was unbelievable. In 2000, I was in Sweden, so it was great for an entirely different reason. I may not be a fan of their policies, but I am a fan of the morals of Democratic women.

 

Because the vast majority of the polls are based on 2008 models. Do you believe turnout is going to replicate 2008?

 

Yeah, in LA people don't care all that much. maybe if i were in berkley or something.

 

not a smart thing to say...yeah, but as hard as things have been, and how much better they shoud be...canadian pipe line, oil permits, the closure of the off shore drilling and oil rigs...I mean , its easy to go on and on..It does not take a political news junkie to have a clue as to what is going on..so the lip service to rghts for ladies, blah blah blah...its just a smoke screen..no one is trying to drag us all back to the stone age..I really dont get it..

I guess I view Mitt almost on parr with Hillery. I feel they are both more middle road, rather than far left or right.

 

Did you get binders of women?

 

If that is your defination of human rights then most on the UN list wont qualify. Ask most of the other developed countries in the world how they do it. It would cost less than a war on Iraq.

"Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control"

"But international human rights law is unambiguous on the matter: Universal health care is a right, and the government must step in and provide it if the private sector fails to do so. If there are such things as human rights, under the international framework, then health care is definitely among them"

http://civilliberty.about.com/od/equalrights/f/Health-Care-Human-Right.htm

It really comes down to humanity. The well take care of the sick and together we are all stronger and more prosperous. Obama care doesnt have all the right answers but like I said its a step in right direction.