Romney tells millionaires what he really thinks of Obama voters

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  1. Further

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    My guess is that there will be some elderly who will be very turned off by these recent Romney comments. And with Florida already leaning Dem, this should cement that state in blue. If Romney can't win Flordia, he really can't get the electoral votes needs.

    I would be willing to bet that Obama wins. $50, or perhaps a sig or avatar bet. I trust my read of the situation.
     
  2. jlprk

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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Maybe it won't, I certainly don't know. On the other hand, if this doesn't make a difference, what will? Is there anything that can change the race?

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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    How can you tell? Are the other 20 less embarrassing?

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    The Grover Norquist pledge that numerous candidates/elected officials have signed says no tax increases no matter what. But it really means no tax increases for the rich. South Carolina and Kansas both passed budgets that cut taxes on the rich and raise them on the poor. Wisconsin's budget cuts taxes in all brackets except the lowest. Cut taxes on the rich, raise on the poor. Robin Hood in reverse. The problem with the poor is they just have too damn much money. Like soldiers in combat zones who are exempted from federal income tax. Retirees on social security and medicare. Just too damn much money. Need to raise their taxes so billionaires can pay less.

    No one in the world has gotten richer in the past 4 years than Sheldon Adelson. But he has committed unlimited funds to Romney. He says it's because Romney is more committed to Israel. So what is Romney's position on the Middle East, per this vid? Kick it down the road, maybe someday something will happen. That's leadership? That's supporting Israel? Or anything? Every president for decades has at least tried, some have achievements to their credit. Romney says he'll do nothing. Maybe Adelson really just likes the fact that he'd pay $2 billion less under Romney's huge tax cut for the rich.

    Romney's campaign has been criticized for lack of specifics. A week ago his campaign said they would focus more on specifics, but when reporters asked what specifics they didn't answer. Now we can see why. The way you solve problems of international relations is kick them down the road. And if Romney is elected, per his remarks, the economy will automatically improve just from his presence, even if he does nothing. Abracadabra!

    I'm a sports fan, obviously. Watching a game where one team is getting killed by their own mishaps, an NBA team down 45 points, a baseball team down 20-2, I sometimes feel sorry for the players on the losing side (unless it's the Lakers, of course). I sometimes think there should be a mercy rule so the poor schlubs don't have to keep on until the end, getting pasted, and the poor broadcasters don't have to keep thinking of things to say.

    But this independent voter - and I did not vote for Obama in 2008 due to profound political disagreements - just can't feel sorry watching Romney self-destruct. I think Republican Joe Scarborough summed it up when he said Romney is not a true conservative, not a courageous moderate, has no real positions on anything, he is just an ambitious man. He's a multimillionaire who's been a CEO and a governor and just wants president on his resume. Stephen Colbert in his inimitable way "mocked" Obama saying "I am the President", saying "the arrogance of the man! You won't ever hear Romney say that!" No, you won't.
     
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    I didn't say Obama wasn't going to win, just that I don't see this one blooper as making that much of a difference. I tip my hat to the Democrats for being really smart at when they released this. Obviously, since the event happened in May, they've had it in their arsenal waiting to release it until just the right time when it could be a major distraction for Romney just prior to the debates. Much smarter than the Republicans were last time with the Reverend Wright and "clinging to guns & religion" Obama faux pas in the 2008 election. Those were released much too early and had blown over by election day. Still, I doubt this thing will be of nearly as much importance in determining the election as the debates and what may happen to the economy between now and election day.
     
  8. Denny Crane

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    The funny thing, crandc, is that people say he lacks specifics, then they go into specifics about how he proposes to do X (like cut taxes on the rich and raise taxes on the poor).

    Having one's cake and eating it too?
     
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    I don't think so because he is backing way off that comment.

    It was just a stupid thing for any politician to say. He will be allowed to clarify it in the debates, and by god he better have one of his political writes explain what he meant.

    The problem with Mitt is not many feel like he can relate with him and he keeps feeding fuel to the fire. The economy is bad enough and people are looking for a new leader, this election is ripe for an incumbant losing . . . but it's almost like Romney is trying to lose this. Probably just doesn't understand politics.

    I'm ready to go with someone new who could possibly turn the economy. But I, and I suspect many other out there, are having a hard time relating to Romney. And he doesn't seem to be trying or care to relate at all with people outside his world. Maybe he can utilize the debates to show he relates with the masses.
     
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    I don't think so. Have you ever tried not speaking at all, to anyone, for 2 months straight?
     
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    Yes, backpedal and demand exact numbers after your claim of "0.0000001%".

    I DEMAND EXACT NUMBERS NOW THAT MY ARGUMENT LOOKED SILLY.

    :lol:
     
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    Were Hillary and Obama the same? Their policies were similar enough that there wasn't much to differentiate the two. The point is that for a large number of Americans, they policies are irrelevant. It's all about their perception. I guess if you feel that Romney comes across with the same vibe that gave Bush the "dumb" and "unintelligent" labels, that's your opinion. I think they come across very different in that regard.
     
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    whoa, umm, maybe time to up the meds man

    you attacked my numbers with some bullshit numbers of your own, i rebutted with more exact figures, and then you crawled away with your tail between your legs like a sad little dog

    .0000001% is around 25 square miles of land, around the area of land that you "cant live" on 200k, so any other questions? or have you sufficiently had your ass handed to you yet?
     
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    haha! No, we should definitely based it on inhabitable volume within the Mesosphere. Preferably in cubic meters. These are much better ways to measure this than actually the number of people it applies to.

    0.0000001%! IT'S A LEGIT AND MEANINGFUL NUMBER!!11!
     
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    maybe double up the meds even lol

    it was queried about places on earth (hence using actual measurements OF EARTH) where 200k doesnt cut it, and your answer was... 3M PEEPLE!!11!! 3M PEEPUHL IN CHICAGOOO!!!11!!

    YOU are the one with the faulty logic, if you care to back up your ravings with any information though, im all ears
     
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    Three in four Americans feel they have little or nothing in common with Mitt Romney, while nearly 60 percent feel the same way about President Barack Obama, according to an Esquire/Yahoo! News poll.

    In the wake of Romney's remarks dismissing nearly half of Americans as self-identified victims who are dependent on government—videotaped at a donor event earlier this year and posted online this week by Mother Jones magazine—these new numbers are more bad news for a candidate struggling to connect with ordinary Americans.


    http://news.yahoo.com/esquire-yahoo-news-poll-americans-little-common-with-romney.html

    It's not exactly like the citizen identify with obama either. I wonder what Obama's numbers were last election . . . I'm guessing the percentage is much higher this time around.
     
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    We have a winner! They kept their powder dry until they really needed it.

    Latest Gallup and USA Today and Rasmussen polls have the race dead even in the swing states. Gallup poll taken before the Obama campaign released this video.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-09-18/obama-romney-swing-states-poll/57803524/1
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...dministration/daily_swing_state_tracking_poll
     
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    Maybe republicans have something in their cupboard to use against Obama and are waiting for the opportune time to use it. It would be smart to do.

    I mean just when things were being focused on Obama in a bad way, boom, we hear Romeny thinks 47% of the population think they are victims and only care about handouts. Just what the dr perscribed for democrats who are trying to covince us that Romney only cares about big business and people who make big salaries.
     
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    I can't imagine the Republicans have anything of real use. I mean, our embassies are under assault, people burning our flag in at least 20 nations and that's not bigger news than a Romney gaffe.
     
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    Hey! Lay off those Stanford dweebs! They get those nice, shiny, degrees so they can come get pretentious with us silly message board liberals.

    D'Oh!
     

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