Romney tells millionaires what he really thinks of Obama voters

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  1. MickZagger

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    True middle class, which is between $30,000 and $100,000 vote Democrat. Not the made up middle class that the Republican's want you to believe. I'm sorry, but if you're making $200,000 you are not middle class.
     
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    Yes. What's your point?
     
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    I thought it was just poor government leachers unwilling to do anything for themselves that were democrats.
     
  4. Denny Crane

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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Try living in the New York metro area on $200K. Even Chuck Shumer thinks you're middle class.
     
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    What % of the US middle-class population lives in NYC? I'm sure thousands live reasonably comfortably off a lot less than $200k in the NY Metro.

    If you think the bread and butter of the middle class lives in NYC, I don't know what to tell you.
     
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    ahh yes the "200k is poor in 0.0000001% of the world" argument
     
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    very persuasive
     
  10. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Boston, NY, Chicago, SF, LA, etc. The point is that cost of living is an important component, not just the gross income.
     
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    Both political parties are big tents.

    Both political parties have huge internal contradictions and warring factions.

    We all already knew this.
     
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    desperately grasping at straws as per usual eh maxiep? Denny's point was that past Presidents had been able to work with those across the aisle. I provided insight that those across the aisle from Obama had decided (& pledged) that their party strategy was to oppose him no matter what he proposed. While it's inherently obvious that the opposition always has different views that they'd like to implement, I can't think of a time when the other side took such a hostile stance on everything across the board.

    As Mitch McConnell famously stated, the Republicans top political goal has been to make Obama a 1 term President. Not to write good legislation addressing the needs of their constituents and to help the country flourish, they want the Presidency back by any means necessary. The way they sought to accomplish this was to grind the economy to a halt by not doing even slam dunk winners (like infrastructure bills where the money has already been raised via gas taxes), and then blame Obama. Again, they placed their party's lust for more power over their sworn oath to act in the country's best interest. But thanks for the racism red herring...quality stuff you're bringing

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    a certain percentage of people who cared enough to click on something regarding romney feel a particular way

    interesting indeed
     
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    yeah, but isnt it the left that always plays the race card? priceless
     
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    Manhattan is about 3M. The expensive portion of the Bay Area is another 3M. LA is easily another 3M. Chicago is another couple million. Etc, etc.

    ~5% != 0.0000001%

    Very persuasive.
     
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    A third of NYC makes over 200,000? I'll call bullshit on that.
     
  18. Denny Crane

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    My point was that past presidents have gotten things done with hostile congresses opposing them. Clinton let the govt. shut down and used PR to make it out to be Newt's doing. He got what he wanted, and Obama should, too.

    As I pointed out, Woodward tells the story about Boehner and Obama reaching a grand deficit reduction budget with the tax hikes Obama wants to punish people with and all. So much for republicans opposing Obama to a man - Boehner might have brought 100 republicans on board.

    So the DNC talking points are an outright lie. The Big Lie, in fact.

    On the other hand, what were the republicans to do? Their proposals rejected out of hand, and no seat at the table to formulate the legislation you claim they should have.

    Their only choice was to force Democrats to go it alone on the Bills they wrote on their own.
     
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    how is it dishonest to state that Willard has surrounded himself with former Bush advisors when he has done exactly that? Domestically he's been vague about laying out the particulars of his tax plan, but he's advocating many of the same macro level strategies... more tax breaks for the rich at the expense of the middle class, getting rid of Wall Street & Banking regulations, cutting back on social services. Like George, he comes from privilege and is former Gov. who claims his business experience is what will help him succeed at the job. Also like George he's shown a talent for putting his silver foot in his mouth.

    I'm sure he'd carve his own legacy if he were to become the POTUS, but there are lots of parallels between the two so a comparison is hardly a stretch worth whining about. How would you differentiate the two?

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  20. Denny Crane

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    There is no "AT THE EXPENSE OF THE MIDDLE CLASS" - that's a lie, get it?
     

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