<div class="quote_poster">Quoting lakerman34:</div><div class="quote_post"> Guess what? Ron Artest wants out! I think he maybe what the Lakers need: I say the Lakers trade: SF Luke Walton SF Devean George for Ron Artest, conditions to this trade are that Luke Walton cannot be traded until December 15th due to his new contract. The Lakers could use the toughness and defense of Artest, and this way we get the star we want without having to trade any bigs. With this trade, the Lakers are -3 in rebounds, and -2.2 in assists per game. They are, however, +6.8 in points, and we get arguably the best defensive player in the game. Why we do this trade? See above Why they do this trade? They get the expiring contract of $5M of Devean George, and they get a promising player in Luke Walton. Possible starting scenarios for LA: PG Lamar Odom SG Kobe Bryant SF Ron Artest PF Kwame Brown C Chris Mihm OR PG Smush Parker SG Kobe Bryant SF Ron Artest PF Lamar Odom C Chris Mihm I have this trade on realgm.com. The transaction ID#2697876. Thoughts?</div> are you freakin kidding me. what u smokin right now.do you think that bird is gonna hand you artest for george and luke ha your retarded man. keep dreaming and maybe someday the lakers will remember what it felt like to win.the funny thing here is that you sound like you actually believe that this could happen!!!
Artest is definetly the third piece to a championship team with the Lakers...Kobe, Odom, and Artest will definitely make us into Championship Contenders....I think this was the opportunity that the Lakers Management were looking for...I see Artes coming to L.A. How about Artest for Brian Cook and Luke Walton?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pablo23:</div><div class="quote_post">Artest is definetly the third piece to a championship team with the Lakers...Kobe, Odom, and Artest will definitely make us into Championship Contenders....I think this was the opportunity that the Lakers Management were looking for...I see Artes coming to L.A. How about Artest for Brian Cook and Luke Walton?</div> Whoa are you crazy man? you laker fans kill me. Luke walton and cook are way more valuable then artest is. Your talking about giving up 2 future hall of famers for just 1 artest. How about smush parker and 2 laker girls for artest? now were really talkin'.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Whoa are you crazy man? you laker fans kill me. Luke walton and cook are way more valuable then artest is. Your talking about giving up 2 future hall of famers for just 1 artest. How about smush parker and 2 laker girls for artest? now were really talkin'. __________________</div> I can't even tell what your real point of view here that response was so sarcastic lol Anyways- as I've said before a trade involving Devean George, Luke Walton, and maybe even Brian cook is out of the question- They know the triangle and have made big plays in big situations. As for this "trade" There's big talk of him going to NY. There is an article in the rumors section of NBA.com that lists the teams that have any chance of landing Artest. Lakers aren't mentioned. It's Sacremento, Cleveland, Knicks and one other- which didn't start with an L.
I think it's good the Lakers are not being mentioned. Ever notice teams who get mentioned never seem to end up actually pulling off a trade? Cook & Walton for Artest is not realistic. You have to ask yourself, why would Indiana do this? As pissed off as the organization and players are with Artest, they aren't just going to firesale the guy. The Lakers need to offer Odom if they even want to be considered in the Artest sweepstakes.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Johnnybrasco:</div><div class="quote_post">There's no way Artest would go to LA, he already said he wanted to be traded to a winning team preferably in the eastern conference. Beside if Kobe couldn't get along with shaq do you even want to think about artest?</div> artest wouldn't need as many shots as shaq and artest would gaurd the best wing player on the other team
artest is a good player--yes but i would not give up odom for him just because odom is an all-around player
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting PlaTsanity:</div><div class="quote_post">artest is a good player--yes but i would not give up odom for him just because odom is an all-around player</div> Odom is an all around offensive player, his defense sucks.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Odom and Slava for artest</div> HAHAHA! I love it when people who don't even no Collective Bargaining Rules post things like this, that would make the Pacers lose at least $7M, and the Lakers to gain $7M, and, besides that, it wouldn't go throw the front office, not allowed.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting eyes only:</div><div class="quote_post">are you freakin kidding me. what u smokin right now.do you think that bird is gonna hand you artest for george and luke ha your retarded man. keep dreaming and maybe someday the lakers will remember what it felt like to win.the funny thing here is that you sound like you actually believe that this could happen!!!</div> Go back to your posts, Indy fan. Maybe your Pacers will someday know how it feels to win a championship, but I doubt that.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting eyes only:</div><div class="quote_post">are you freakin kidding me. what u smokin right now.do you think that bird is gonna hand you artest for george and luke ha your retarded man. keep dreaming and maybe someday the lakers will remember what it felt like to win.the funny thing here is that you sound like you actually believe that this could happen!!!</div> I know Lakerman's idea makes me laugh too Go to Indy and try to OD Larry Bird. It might happen then.
Ron Artest could have a good chance to come to LA because the Pacers would be dumb to trade him to an Eastern Conference team and they wouldn't trade him to a good western conference team. Here's my trade: Ron Artest and Scott Pollard for Lamar Odom, Luke Walton, Devean George, and 1st round draft pick
Lamar Odom has shown that he is not a consistent player. I wouldnt mind seeing him and few others go for Artest.
You guys have to put salaries into perspective when coming up with these trade ideas. If any of the trade ideas are realistic in this thread so far, it's only the one I mentioned earlier. Salaries work, and the player quality each team is recieving along with bad contracts evens out.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting lakerman34:</div><div class="quote_post">Go back to your posts, Indy fan. Maybe your Pacers will someday know how it feels to win a championship, but I doubt that. </div> just because the pacers haven't won a championship doesn't mean that your trade idea is any less rediculous
I also agree Devean Goerge and Luke Walton for Artest will definitely work. The trade for the Pacers is not about getting the same type of caliber player because there is Non in the league. There is no other players earning what Artest is earning and at his All-Star level. What the Pacers want is no big contracts to clear salary cap...and Phil Jackson will be able to control a player like Artest he has done it in the past....with Rodman...
PHIL JACKSON HANDLING ARTEST: Rodman is not half as much of a lunatic as Ron Artest, are you kidding me. Rodman showed up every night. He just looked freakish and hooked up with dudes. Ron Artest is psychologically flawed. ARTEST FOR GEORGE/WALTON: This is good for Indiana. They get pretty good teammates, skill and athleticism play at the 3 spot. Not to mention 3-pt shooting. They will move the ball better as a team once they get going. The only risk is putting two unstoppable players on the same team (kobe and artest), but to get rid of artest for these two guys is not shabby at all. Then they gotta hope that the Phil-Kobe-Ron triangle blows up. It's a major roll of the dice for the Lakers. Ron wants to chill and now he has two major competitors in his face. I say Lakers should do it, Devean and Luke are worth the Ron experiment.
I still thinking trading anyone for Artest is a bad idea, in a interview he said that it's more than likely he will move to east coast winning team if he is traded west after his contract expires.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting YourNewChef:</div><div class="quote_post">I still thinking trading anyone for Artest is a bad idea, in a interview he said that it's more than likely he will move to east coast winning team if he is traded west after his contract expires.</div> If he leaves in 3 years (including this one), it's not all that terrible. Lamar Odom's contract expires a season after, but Odom will be making $14Million by then. In 3 years a lot of things can change for the Lakers, since PJax contract also ends in 3 years, Kobe will be 30 in 3 years, etc. In the next 3 seasons, I'd like to see the Lakers make a run at a title. You have Kobe Bryant leading the way, adding a two-way player like Artest is vital to compliment Kobe. Then in 2007 you add the final pieces to get this team back into the Finals. Artest might feel and say those things about going to NY now, but he could just as easily change his mind during those 3 seasons if the Lakers are winning and he's a major part of it. Saying he wants to go to NY doesn't mean the Knicks want him either. Will they have cap space to pay him? Will they have a roster spot for him in 3 years? IMO, Artest said those things to scare teams off from making offers for him, in hopes of being traded to the Knicks.
