<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Jun 24 2007, 10:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Easy...Tim Duncan.</div>Nope, Tim Duncan is not more talented, he's just more effective
LeBron James is more talented than Ron Artest. - better passer - better ball handler - better court vision - can play the point - better at getting to the basket
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jun 25 2007, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>LeBron James is more talented than Ron Artest. - better passer - better ball handler - better court vision - can play the point - better at getting to the basket</div>yeah, but James don't play no defense, Artest is clearly the best defender in the league, and James is not clearly even the best offensive player in the league, and Artest can be a 25 5 and 5 guy on offense so I'd give the advantage to Artest
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jun 25 2007, 10:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Artest can be a 25 5 and 5 guy on offense</div> Except he isn't. He's a 18/5/3 guy.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jun 25 2007, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Except he isn't. He's a 18/5/3 guy.</div>nope, with Indiana he was a 25/5/5 guy
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jun 25 2007, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>nope, with Indiana he was a 25/5/5 guy</div> Maybe if you go by a season in which he played 7 games.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jun 25 2007, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>nope, with Indiana he was a 25/5/5 guy</div>Ron has never had a season in which he averaged 25/5/5, his best season he averaged 24/6/3.. but guess what, he only played seven games that year.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jun 25 2007, 07:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nope, Tim Duncan is not more talented, he's just more effective</div>:shok:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jun 25 2007, 04:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>nope, with Indiana he was a 25/5/5 guy</div>http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/stats?statsId=3339As a matter of fact the only season where he averaged over 20 ppg was when he had a 7 game season ending with the Brawl.Artest is a great player but I dont know where your getting those stats from.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jun 25 2007, 08:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>yeah, but James don't play no defense, Artest is clearly the best defender in the league, and James is not clearly even the best offensive player in the league, and Artest can be a 25 5 and 5 guy on offense so I'd give the advantage to Artest</div>PFF...I used to have hope for you. Wow.You think Artest is better and more talented than LeBron? :HAHAHA:
There's no point in arguing about this, because we all know that Ron Artest is not the second most talented player in the NBA. I can list about 20 guys that are more talented.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jun 25 2007, 10:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nope, Tim Duncan is not more talented, he's just more effective</div>Tim DuncanDirk NowitzkiSteve NashAmare StoudamireDwayne WadeLeBron JamesGilbert ArenasCarlos BoozerDeron WilliamsTracy McGradyYao MingChris BoshElton BrandKevin GarnettBaron DavisPau GasolJermaine O'nealChauncey BillupsDwight HowardLuol Deng1 x 20I think I could make a case for any of those people. Some of them may be questionable but you can always consider all of these guys just as talented if not more talented than Ron Artest. Ron is an amazingly versatile defender and does have talent on the offensive end but you're way overrating him if you think he's the second most talented player in the NBA.
You guys are out of your mind, I know Artest didn't put those stats up in a whole season but at the end of his career in Indiana he was doing what I was saying, he was playing as one of the top 5 in the league in his last 100 games as a pacer.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jun 25 2007, 08:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You guys are out of your mind, I know Artest didn't put those stats up in a whole season but at the end of his career in Indiana he was doing what I was saying, he was playing as one of the top 5 in the league in his last 100 games as a pacer.</div>He's never averaged over 18 points and 5 rebounds in a season, and he's never shot a real good percentage from anywhere on the court, including free throws. Top 5? I don't think so.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrizzFanTaylor @ Jun 26 2007, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's never averaged over 18 points and 5 rebounds in a season, and he's never shot a real good percentage from anywhere on the court, including free throws. Top 5? I don't think so.</div>you're missing the point, in his last 50 or so games as a pacer he was putting up 25 and 5 and 5 every night, he was a top 10 player in the league at the time
But earlier you said behind Kobe, he was the 2nd best player in the NBA. So, because he was putting up those numbers for his last 50 games as a Pacer, he is the 2nd best player in the NBA? You've gone from 2nd best, to top 5, to top 10 so, I don't exactly know what the point is you're trying to make anymore.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jun 25 2007, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>yeah, but James don't play no defense, Artest is clearly the best defender in the league, and James is not clearly even the best offensive player in the league, and Artest can be a 25 5 and 5 guy on offense so I'd give the advantage to Artest</div>:HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA:
I would be Artest in the top 25 players in the NBA but theres no way hes better then Kobe,Wade,Lebron,Duncan,Garnett,Amare,Nash,Tmac,etc.Artest is a very good player, but those are superstar players and potential HOFers.
