Rookie Press Conference

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by B-Roy, Jun 24, 2023.

  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,730
    Likes Received:
    55,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    I had the sinking feeling as soon as I started comparing Oden and Durant. I think a lot of us saw the parallels between Bowie and Jordan as soon as we won the lottery.
     
    Everything Beagle and BIG Q like this.
  2. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    58,561
    Likes Received:
    58,869
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Complaining? I'm just saying Joe should be transparent like he said he would be, and not dick us around. He's instead trying to straddle two different paths.

    I'm sure Scoot and Shaedon will be exciting to watch. They won't net many wins without Lillard and the rebuild will be long. That's not complaining either. That's reality.

    I'm not happy about our cornerstone and one if not our best players being pushed out. I'm sure down the road once all is said and done, I will get excited again. I am a Blazers fan. One of the most die hard there is. Loyal to this team. I'll also stand by our arguably best player ever, and cornerstone. His name is Damian Lillard, not the 33 year old by the way.
     
    Whyachi, Hoopguru and blazerkor like this.
  3. BIG Q

    BIG Q Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2008
    Messages:
    1,432
    Likes Received:
    1,470
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    TEMPE, AZ
    I agree if after Dame/Joe "have the conversation," and if they decide to explore Dame trades, Grant is done in Portland. My question is how do sign and trades work with the new CBA? Anyone? Can Portland really get any value for Grant or is it better to just let him walk? Thanks in advance to anyone that has the answer.
     
  4. JDC

    JDC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2008
    Messages:
    3,425
    Likes Received:
    3,246
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Picking in the top 3 changed a lot for the FO.

    New CBA rules are making rookie scale contracts even more important as well.

    And at least in Scoot and Kris, I think we have guys that have a chance to be rotation level or better right away.
     
    Natebishop3 likes this.
  5. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    15,620
    Likes Received:
    16,764
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If teams that want Grant have expirings, young prospects and or picks then it would be very worth it to us. It will hard cap whatever team Grant goes to but if they think Grant is an important piece he seems more worth hard capping a team than GP2weeks.
     
  6. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    58,561
    Likes Received:
    58,869
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You aren't being argumentive at all. You make a good point. Cronin may have still screwed the pooch with Lillard staying so to speak
     
    blazerkor and Natebishop3 like this.
  7. tykendo

    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    6,346
    Likes Received:
    7,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Those players have to payoff before we can say "we hit the jackpot". A little premature Gronk. If they do, with Dame still on the team, then we likely will have a trophy in a few years. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Joe keeps his word.
     
    blazerkor, Hoopguru and Chris Craig like this.
  8. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2014
    Messages:
    21,642
    Likes Received:
    17,884
    Trophy Points:
    113
    wasn't that comment first made before we ended up with #3?
     
  9. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    50,047
    Likes Received:
    35,321
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I don't know about you but when I'm on vacation the last thing I'm thinking about is work.
     
    STOMP, BassPlaya, Eastoff and 2 others like this.
  10. BIG Q

    BIG Q Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2008
    Messages:
    1,432
    Likes Received:
    1,470
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    TEMPE, AZ
    Exactly. If I am on vacation in another country the last thing I want is the repetition of the life I am escaping for a few days. I am sure when Joe last saw Dame, he told him to enjoy the time away and that he looked forward to updating him on how things at the ranch went while he was gone. I see it as respect. When my employee's are out, they are out. If they call me though, then we might discuss a little work.
     
    Mote and Hoopguru like this.
  11. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,730
    Likes Received:
    55,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Initially, and then reiterated in the interview on Showtime.
     
  12. Blazinaway

    Blazinaway Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2010
    Messages:
    10,973
    Likes Received:
    4,253
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think sign and trades are easier BEFORE the new CBA kicks in on July 1, so it would likely be easier to move Grant NOW vs later so a decision may need to be made soon
     
  13. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2014
    Messages:
    21,642
    Likes Received:
    17,884
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Heard that interview and the commentator had Dame regurgitate what he said initially.
     
  14. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,730
    Likes Received:
    55,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    I don't think we know if he has been dishonest.

    All reports indicate that we tried to trade the pick. There was a report that we still offered #3 and Simons to Brooklyn on the day of the draft. So I don't think he was dishonest at all. I think Joe is TRYING to improve the team to meet Dame's requests. But I also think Joe caught a lot of heat for his shitty trades at the deadline a couple years ago, and he's being much more conservative about taking a loss on a deal. He wasn't going to sell the farm to bring in a guy like Siakam or Bridges.

    The Zion trade wasn't real. NO offered some crappy deal centered on the 14th pick and Murphy.

    So I don't think it's fair to call him dishonest when all indications are that he is trying to do what he said he would. It might just be impossible to do what he wants to do. Woj even said it. It would be malpractice to short sell the third pick. Joe is making the smart decisions right now.... but those decisions are not in line with that Dame wants, what a lot of the fans want, and maybe even what Joe wants. Sometimes you have to do the smart thing, even though you wish it was something else.

    Our team does not get a lot of chances to bring in superstar talent. Hell, we are stage 5 clinging to Dame because we don't want to lose our superstar. So when you have a chance to draft a potential superstar, you have to take it. You have to.
     
    BBert, maxiep, Eastoff and 3 others like this.
  15. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    15,620
    Likes Received:
    16,764
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I don't know about you but I don't have to train for my job when I'm on vacation. I'm not obsessed with my job the way Dame is. My job isn't as high stakes.

    I guess it's possible that Dame vowed to himself not to talk to anyone about work during this small stretch but it wasn't the whole time he was in France because Dame was in France when he reportedly talked with Joe on Tuesday. So I don't think him not talking to Joe and having Goodwin do the talking is just a matter of Dame taking time off. If Joe is talking to Goodwin constantly I can't imagine Goodwin is making that constant communication without having something from Dame.
     
  16. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,730
    Likes Received:
    55,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Dame has said it twice publicly. We have heard similar comments recently from reports as well. But I'm not sure why it would be earth shattering. The team drafted his eventual replacement. Why wouldn't he at least talk to the team and say, "is it time for me to leave?"
     
    blazerkor likes this.
  17. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    15,620
    Likes Received:
    16,764
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I don't think we can S&T Jerami before the new CBA begins regardless because contracts can't be signed before then.
     
    CJ_is_Gone likes this.
  18. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Messages:
    23,690
    Likes Received:
    36,244
    Trophy Points:
    113
    my hunch is that if Grant has any hint Dame may ask out he won't re-sign with Portland unless they grossly overpay. And Grant will likely know what Dame's intentions are by the time free agency starts
     
    BIG Q likes this.
  19. tykendo

    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    6,346
    Likes Received:
    7,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    These are wonderful young men. I hope they all succeed for us. Good Vibes all around from these guys.
     
    maxiep, Ed O, BIG Q and 2 others like this.
  20. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    15,620
    Likes Received:
    16,764
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Jerami probably knows right now, he's who Dame is vacationing with.
     
    maxiep and Tince like this.

Share This Page