Round 1: Iggy vs. Swish15

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  1. phunDamentalz

    phunDamentalz JBB JustBBall Member

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    Swish

    Iggy had some funny lines and ideas which if they were done right he would have won but 1) his flow was at times not even existent, 2) he had to explain a couple of lines 3) some lines were just weird - the mad dog in the garden line. so good round Iggy but I have to go with Swish who was just more consistent.
     
  2. bbwSwish

    bbwSwish Harder. Better. Faster. Stronger.

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    Keep voting guys.
     
  3. Chutney

    Chutney MON-STRAWRRR!!1!

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    Iggy's flow definitely wasn't as good as Swish's. But, in the end, I thought the difference was inconsequential. Iggy's verses looked more unorganized, because he grouped two rhymes together on one line and they often spilled into the next one. However, it flowed in my head fairly well. Ultimately, I thought the difference lay in content. Iggy's insults were more noticeable, complex, and frequent.

    I vote for Iggy.
     
  4. Smitty

    Smitty brush em off.

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    Iggy's flow was kinda off, but overall his lines hit harder, left more sting as opposed to Swish..which makes Iggy stand out more.

    Vote: Iggy.
     
  5. NTC

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    2-1 with the popular vote, Iggy needs one more vote to win.
     
  6. bbwSwish

    bbwSwish Harder. Better. Faster. Stronger.

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    Cmon people. Vote!
     
  7. Iggy

    Iggy Iggy

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    Damn, the flow factor has been really killing me with the judges LOL. I think I'll go back to using the line method without the whole // thing.

    Anyways, keep voting people.
     
  8. bbwSwish

    bbwSwish Harder. Better. Faster. Stronger.

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  9. Mr. J

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    Well, to me, honestly, it's a tie.

    Both you had different qualities about you which matched up evenly, IMO. Iggy had some potent punches and wordplay, but it was a little harder to follow with the lacking flow. Swish's lines weren't up to par with Iggy in the creative department, but he went with what worked and it was easy to flow and understand. So, I'm going to have to call it a stalemate between you two. That's the main reason why I haven't voted in this thread.
     
  10. Iggy

    Iggy Iggy

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    Dang, we should get Karma to come vote!

    EDIT: GameFace, Pakman, I see ya'll in the thread; step up and vote please!
     
  11. Karma

    Karma The Will Must Be Stronger Than The Skill

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    I'm about to vote right now. I checked out some parts of your verses yesterday but never got the chance to vote.

    I'll post my reply in like 10 or so minutes.

    Stay tuned! [​IMG]
     
  12. bbwSwish

    bbwSwish Harder. Better. Faster. Stronger.

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    Oh man, this is pretty intense. Karma your killing me man. I just wet myself guys.
     
  13. Iggy

    Iggy Iggy

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    <div class="quote_poster">Swish15 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Oh man, this is pretty intense. Karma your killing me man. I just wet myself guys.</div>

    Lmao, penis!
     
  14. bbwSwish

    bbwSwish Harder. Better. Faster. Stronger.

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    <div class="quote_poster">Iggy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Lmao, penis!</div>

    [​IMG]
     
  15. Karma

    Karma The Will Must Be Stronger Than The Skill

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    *I always state this but when I vote I vote as I read and I vote honestly. So hopefully you guys won't have a problem with the stuff I say and the critisicm that's going to come your way. I'm not going to sugar coat anything so if you you think I'm being harsh or whatever, it's because I'd rather be straight up then beat around the bush.

    Verse 1

    Swish

    Your flow is on point most of the verse, good useage of the bars and all. I noticed some nice internal thyming as well. Some lines on your thing are kinda cliche...such as the whole "punchline" and "uppercut" line. I thought your strongest line was "I was ready to kill GameFace but you’ll have to do // Either way I was gonna win and advance to Round Two" and that's honestly not saying much cause I felt like the verse was pretty weak overall. I've seen better from you and I expect better from you so I'm assuming your verses get stronger as this battle goes on.

    Azn Iverson

    Much more intriguing and hard hitting lines then that of Swish but you need to work on your flow. I think just reading the verse out loud to yourself and cutting a couple of words out would help.

    you got a quote from john cena in your title? next thing you know it'll be sayin 'you cant see me' // but im the one like ali in your old avy cause i flow like a butterfly and sting like a bee

    That's wayyyyyyyy too long, hard to flow and it's just a filler line in the end.

    Also, some of your lines also don't make much sense:

    espn? common man, you's just a desperate wannabe // the only reason your broadcasting worldwide was the world came to see me

    In the two lines below, both lines were too long and some words could have been realtered to make it flow more. However, I thought these two lines were nice:

    my rhymes pierce through your verse, my verbs come right through // i'm like a mad dog in a garden the way im rippin' herbs like you
    im the one with a wasps-nest sting, its best that i dont be bothered // swish, if you really want beef, ill treat you like a cow and leave you lyrically slaughtered

    Andd your ending line was a great one, and it actually made me laugh a little.

    Your flow needs a lot of work, and you have your share of fillers and mistakes in your rhymes, but due to your stronger lines and attempts at more creative rhymes (atleast in my opinion), I'm giving the verse 1 edge to you.

    Verse 1 Winner: Iggy

    Verse 2

    Swish

    The opening line was nice, but then the second line just killed it.

    Quit talking about Umair, he ain't a part of this tournement // Pay attention to ME and maybe you'll learn some ****

    Sorry Swish, but your rhymes keep getting weaker in this verse. The stutter line is irrelevant and you trying to flip him saying the word "herb" to you backfired because your response was weak in itself.

    Come on man, don't act like you don't remember // Remember the K-Fed sig that made you JBB's most embarrassed member?
    One verse from Iggy and he thinks he's automatic // Don't diss FLA when you live in the U.S.A's attic

    Nice.

    Ended off quite strongly there Swishy boy. Not bad at all.

    Iggy

    Nice opening line. Still the same problems throughout your verse though, the lines are wayyyyyy too long; you need to chop out a bunch of words in almost every bar.

    so, verse two is almost over.. might as well bring me who's next // cause my verse have your hands chokin on the keyboard, like your fingers had necks

    lol I get the concept, but the "like your fingers had necks" part made me laugh for the wrong reason.

    And once again, great closing line.

    I'm giving verse 2 to Swish...I think he came back a bit stronger then his first verse while Iggy still didn't improve his flow that much and put up some decent lines.

    Verse 2 Winner: Swish

    Verse 3

    Swish

    Iggy thinks he’s gangsta cuz he can handle a utensil // I’m the real deal while your just wasted potential

    I'm assuming the utensil line was in response to the chopsticks thing, so that's a pretty good line IMO.

    Something I noticed over the course of this battle is that you guys have a habit of saying "lyrical" alot. E.G- "lyrical wasp's nest", "lyrical cuts", "lyrical fingerprints". Just something I noted.

    Decent verse. I think your second verse was your strongest. Nothing really stood out to me all that much in this verse at all, and it should have been your strongest. Nonethless, let's see how Iggy fares...

    Iggy

    Nice opening line. I think I've said that for all of yuor verses. You tend to open and close strong.

    strangler and danger don't rhyme so you best stop running your mouth // you best get an education the way you're spitting down there in the south

    And it woulda been "best" if you hadn't use those lines at all [​IMG]. Just playing, it's a decent line but doesn't really hit as hard as it could have. Good lookin out on the danger and strangler thing though.

    Nice closing line yet again.

    Gotta give verse 3 to Iggy.

    Verse 3 Winner: Iggy

    <font color="red">Battle Winner: Iggy</font>

    This battle was relatively close. That last verse would have gone in Swish's favor but he put up a weaker verse than Iggy. Iggy's last verse was not that strong though, so Swish had a great chance. Unfortunetly, he didn't capatalize on his last verse. I think Iggy's knocks were his lack of flow and sometimes his inability to connect his punches or use Swish's rhymes to his own advanatge. Swish, you fared off decently against him and honestly, I think you could have done much better. I thought your verses in the 2 vs. 2 battle were actually better then any of these verses.

    Good job to you both and I hope you guys don't wanna kill me for my criticism; I'm just trying to help you improve so don't take it personally. Iggy, good luck in the next round.
     
  16. bbwSwish

    bbwSwish Harder. Better. Faster. Stronger.

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    Congrats Iggy. Karma, I also thought I did better in the 2v2 battle and I don't know what happend. Good luck in the next round Iggy and honestly, it shouldn't have been as close as it was. I came out really weak and from the beginning I knew you had this. Congrats bro.
     
  17. Mr. J

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    I always respected your nisght Karma. You should do it for my battle too [​IMG]
     
  18. Karma

    Karma The Will Must Be Stronger Than The Skill

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    Tell me when you need popular vote [​IMG]
     
  19. phunDamentalz

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    <div class="quote_poster">MrJ Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I always respected your nisght Karma. You should do it for my battle too [​IMG]</div>
    lol at MrJ trying to win allies.[​IMG]
     
  20. Iggy

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    <div class="quote_poster">Swish15 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Congrats Iggy. Karma, I also thought I did better in the 2v2 battle and I don't know what happend. Good luck in the next round Iggy and honestly, it shouldn't have been as close as it was. I came out really weak and from the beginning I knew you had this. Congrats bro.</div>

    Thanks man. But don't bash yourself like that, you really put up a good fight, and provided some really tough competition.

    As for the Karma, I'm not mad. It's constructive criticism and if theres something to take out of this battle, its that I really need to work on my flow.
     

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