ROY comments on our offense - is there a problem here?

His Philadelphia teammates seemed pretty unhappy to see him go. Not sure where you're getting the idea that he's turned off all his teammates at every stop.

 

How did Bryant "modify" his game? His usage rate was lower during the Shaq years than it's been during their repeat.

Hey, if you want to depend on Andre Miller, go for it. As far as I am concerned, I'll take Brandon Roy with the ball in his hands over Andre Miller any time I can get it.

 

Did they? I wouldn't know. Philly hasn't been on my radar since Iverson played there.

 

Why does he need to change for the entire team? The team won 54 games with Roy playing like Roy should, and it took Houston to 6 games. It wasn't Roy's fault that Oden and Przy sucked against Houston, Outlaw, Batum, and Rudy disappeared, and Yao dominated the paint.

I want my All-NBA player to play like an All-NBA player. If the players around him don't fit, then that is the fault of the GM. As it stands now, one move has been made over the summer. What was the point of changing the GM, if the team stays pretty much the same?

 

Why do you keep defining the argument to Roy vs Miller when it really about making the TEAM better? probably because it's the only way you can even try to defend your position.

 

There were a couple of quoted Sixers players who's reaction to Miller signing with Portland was something along the lines of "Wow, that's bad news for us." Iguodala is the one I remember most, I forget the other.

I don't think it's a question of "depending" on Miller instead of Roy. It's a question of Portland's best player seeing if he's capable of playing in more than one way, because the more ways he can be effective, the more ways Portland can attack defenses as a team. Bryant doesn't merely ISO and pick-and-roll...he plays off the ball a lot and the Lakers design plays for him to come off screens and catch and shoot. Jordan had tons of catch-and-shoot plays where he was off the ball.

The idea that playing off the ball means being "Rip Hamilton" is fairly simplistic. The greatest perimeter scorers have had that in their game. Granted, Roy may not be good enough to be able to do that at a high level in addition to what he already has proven good at...but I think it's rational to see if he can. It widens the scope of what Portland can do if Roy proves deadly off the ball in addition to as primary ball-handler.

 

Struggling with the reading comprehension, eh? Look at the stats since AFTER Shaq left, not INCLUDING when Shaq played. Try to keep up.

I want to depend on a solid TEAM with a great / really good player leading. I don't want to rely on one player, which is what you clearly want. No teams win championships with that strategy, so good luck.

 

Because that is the way the argument in general has been defined in this thread. I've "defended my position" (the insane one of letting the All-NBA player have the ball as much as possible) in more ways than just Roy vs. Miller.

What could Roy do better than he did in 2008-09, other than handle the ball more than he did during the season?

 

so is there a link or something?

At any rate, none of this bothers me as much as the fact that Dante's favorite movie is 'The Little Mermaid'...

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2010/10/meet_the_trail_blazers_favorit.html

 

Taking a page from you, I guess.

 

So Roy can't try to change "somewhat" to fit better with the team mates he has? That's too much too ask? Stars who win championships do adapt to their situation, so now you try to deflect it on the GM (there you go again) and Roy never needs to do anything? Gimme a frickin break

 

And where is the proof they wouldn't have won 60 games that year with Roy playing a different role?

 

HOW DO YOU WANT ROY TO CHANGE?

I want him to be involved more on offense. A usage rate of 26 for an elite guard is bad coaching, IMO. What's your solution?

 

Where is the proof they wouldn't have won 60 games with Roy having a usage rate of 35?

 

Like what was talked about earlier, play off the ball more, have more movement and motion in the offense, get his team mates more involved so it becomes easier for him, which it will. What worked in 08/09 was fine for that very young team, teams and players mature and Roy needs to do that with his game as most successful stars have. We're not asking the moon here, just some modest changes that every great player makes to become a better "overall" player as their game matures.

 

You said they won 54 games with Roy "playing like Roy should". Now you are bringing up a usage rate of 35? Why do you want Roy to play differently, PapaG?

 

How do you know that this will improve the team? Roy is already a great offensive player, although a bit underutilized, IMO. He could certainly improve his defense. That's what I'd like to see him work on, instead of having the ball less on offense.

 

I've already posted why. Read much, "Stanford grad"? LOL

 

One thing to keep in mind when thinking about how effective Roy was in 08/09: He has an additional year of opponents scouting and subsequent gameplanning that he must overcome.

 

We don't know, one way or the other. That's why it needs to be tested.