Roy Felt "Hurt" He Didn't Play More

According to some, that's the norm, though, even for NBA players. Politicians do it every day.

 

I thought this thread was going to be closed? I even took off my banter of Uncle Ty and BNM from my signature. There was a good sign gesture for us fans to unite and all cheer for all ball club tonight. How about we simmer down and wait until after this game to cry gloom and doom? I'm over it already.

 

Why close it? This is good stuff, man.

 

Mags taking down his Boob-No-More sig might seem like a good idea to him now in terms of extending an olive branch, but when he is confronted with the same issue in the future by BNM, BNM isn't going to admit being wrong about Miller complaining to the media. At the very least, Mags should keep those quotes handy.

 

Nah, I'm pretty resilient with coming up with quotes and shit like that. If that time comes, I will be more than ready to dig it up again. I was just tired of seeing such a long signature on my posts. And yeah I offered an olive branch. Still got the pleasure of seeing crow at it's finest!

 

No need to quote the troll. He doesn't know what he's talking about and it just clutters up an already cluttered thread.

For the record, I find exceedingly long sigs an unecessary, self-serving pain in the ass regardless of content. Nothing screams "Hey, look at ME!" more than an unecessarily long sig. But, in this case the quote you had listed from me was 100% correct. So, it's rather ironic you chose to include it in your sig. I was referring specifically to this incident:

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When I wrote:

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It was obvious by the context EXACTLY what event I was referring to, and that my comments about that event were 100% historically accurate and easily verified. Quoting one tiny part of that out of context does not change the facts.

And, the other incidents you referenced WRT Miller happened either in PRESEASON or early in the REGULAR SEASON - NOT IN THE PLAYOFFS. Do you still not see the difference? Never mind the fact that Miller was right (he was the better player and deserved more minutes than Blake), and Roy is totally wrong (PER = -8.2, totally sucking at both ends of the court), it is the timing of Roy's comments that piss me off. Whining about playing time and getting your feelings hurt during the playoffs is about the most selfish thing a player can do in a team sport. It TOTALLY undermines team chemistry and causes unecessary distraction when the team should be pulling together and focusing on the opposition. It's an extremely selfish, immature thing for someone to do who is supposed to be a team leader (or is at least paid like he's supposed to be one).

It reminds me very, very much of the time Damon whined about Greg Anthony getting more minutes in the 4th quarter against the Spurs during the 1999 WCF. It was equally selfish and immature, and the Blazers ended up getting swept by the Spurs. It's just an incredibly seflish, immature thing to do, whether you're Damon Stoudamire or Brandon Roy. Damon was harshly criticized at the time for putting his own needs above those of the team, and Roy should be, too.

And, the next time Andre Miller whines about playing time in the post season will be the first. THAT'S the REAL difference between what Roy did and what Miller did.

BNM

 

Actually, the response, going back, was my post that Andre did, in fact complain to the local media. Then a response by you and Uncle Ty said I was wrong. So if you may have mis-interpreted that I was referring to the incident in the locker room; then I guess I can give you that. So here is what I said, then what you replied. In fact, I am just going to put the whole thing in quotes because you responded to this...

 

As you can see BNM, and if you follow the chain of events, you clearly denied Miller ever went to the media. From tabs 4-5, the proof was all here. And especially reading how the conversation between Uncle Ty and I was going at the time. In fact I even said this, the post right above yours...

Then Ty replied this:

Then you replied your banter. Whatever man. You don't want to accept or admit you were wrong, that's on you, not me. So believe or twist it whatever way you wish. I'm done with this.

 

You still don't see the difference between complaining about PT during the preseason and early regular season and whining to the media about PT during the playoffs????? You seem to still be insisting that what Miller did was exactly the same as what Roy did. It isn't.

P.S. What you said to UncleTy is irrelevant to what I posted. I was typing my response at the same time he was and didn't see his response until AFTER I posted mine.

BNM

 

Roy didn't complain as much as he was hurt and disappointed by the situation. When he's venting it's not just because of a single game...it's coming from a guy that sees his career going down the toilet. It's amazing that some people can't see that part of it. It's much more than just "complaining" about minutes.

I still maintain Miller saying "I wouldn't have come here if I knew I was going to be a bench player" to be bush league. It shows absolutely no sacrifice for his new team that had just won 54 games without him. At that point Miller had proven nothing to his new teammates and he came with that shit...bush league.

Absolutely no reason to kill Roy but not kill Miller for his comments. You either kill both or you don't. Funny thing is though Roy has been getting killed for shit he's been saying for 16 months now when basically most of it is true, and stuff that's very comparable to what Miller said.

One thing I know is Roy will never get in a shouting match with the head coach in the middle of practice. Talk about making it about yourself.

 

So, HIS career going down the toilet is justification for throwing his coach and teammates under the bus DURING THE PLAYOFFS?

So, comments about PT made during preseason and early regular season == similar comments made during the playoffs????? I think not. The timing of Roy airing his complaints about PT was absolutely HIDEOUS. Only someone with a blind man crush on Roy could not see that. This isn't October. It's April and right now it's win, or go home. It's not time to placate your former superstar to the detriment of the TEAM. Nor, is it an appropriate time for that former superstar to whine to the media about his own selfish needs and put himself ahead of his TEAM.

BNM

 

Overstatement, and Miller has made similar comments. Doesn't matter when they're said. If you kill Roy for saying it, kill Miller as well.

Absolutely. You either say it or you don't, and Miller said it and pouted for a good portion of the season. It's unprofessional and made him look bad, yet he didn't get killed for it.

Either kill both or neither. Very simple.

 

Wow, worst apology ever. Rather than apologizing to HIS fans, Roy should have apologized to HIS teammates and HIS coach.

Right now, Brandon Roy is a cancer to this team's chemistry. He's putting his own needs ahead of the team, and there is no place for that during the playoffs - EVER.

And the whole Miller vs. Roy debate is retarded - unless someone can show me evidence about Andre Miller complaining about his PT during the playoffs. So, come on Miller haters, put up or shut up. Show me a link to Andre Miller complaining to the media about his PT last year, or this year during the playoffs. Links to PRESEASON articles don't count. October <> April. Preseason <> Playoffs.

BNM

 

Lmao

This basically reads as "don't post the comments/articles that kills my argument".

Interesting tactic, but I see right through it.

 

I think you guys should just agree to disagree at this point. It would not only do yourselves a favor, but the board as well.

 

There's just absolutely no doubt Miller has made the same kind of comments that Roy has made yet he didn't get killed for it.

Roy otoh has been making comments to the media for like 16 months now and has been absolutely destroyed by "fans" for basically being right and being honest. He was still the franchise player at this time. It makes absolutely no sense, and I liken it to the people that say "Monty is a better coach than Nate" with little to know facts backing up that position.

 

Bullshit. Selfishly destroying team chemistry during the playoffs is MUCH worse than similar comments made during preseason. It boggles my mind that anyone would claim otherwise. Or, do you consider preseason games that don't even count in the standings every bit as important as playoff games? If you do, congratulations, you are truly unique.

Seriously???? Miller "pouted" for preseason and early regular season. His blowup with Nate was the first week of January, 2010 and that was the last time we've heard Andre Miller complain about anything. Roy complained last season, he complained back in December and he complained DURING THE PLAYOFFS!

And yes, Miller did get killed when he made his comments - as well as before and after he made those comments by posters in this forum and members of the local media.

Either preseason == playoffs, or it doesn't. Very simple.

BNM

 

Only if you think preseason == playoffs.

BNM

 

OK, fine. You're killing Miller for his comments, when are you going to start killing Roy for his?

BNM

 

Contrast Roy's reaction to less minutes, to Mills' reaction.

Roy felt sorry for himself, and whined to the media.

Mills shut his mouth, worked harder, and maintained a positive attitude both on, and off the court.