Roy Felt "Hurt" He Didn't Play More

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  1. illmatic99

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    Re: Have you heard the audio of Roy's concerns?

    You do realize it wasn't just Quick that got Roy to make similar comments, do you?
     
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    Re: Have you heard the audio of Roy's concerns?

    Are you kidding me? he threw nate under the bus for putting in mills in before him. He needs to understand he cannot help this team right now.
     
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    Re: Have you heard the audio of Roy's concerns?

    Andre, no. Wes, yes. Why because Andre is a proven vet that historically is a great player. Wes has been in the league for 2 years. Yeah this year was a great one for him, but he hasn't paid his dues to justify this.
     
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    Re: Have you heard the audio of Roy's concerns?

    Did anyone care when Miller threw Nate under the bus? He did that last year. Vets that have a feel for their game and what they expect they can do, has a certain level of "ego" that transcends to their respect in the league. Timid players are always put in the back burner, while the more aggressive players become stars.
     
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    Re: Have you heard the audio of Roy's concerns?

    What I'm saying is it happens all the time. Superstars always make huge call outs. And like I responded, even Miller called out Nate last season. Roy has paid his dues, put his body on the line for this team and fans, and felt he wasn't treated fairly.

    And to go a little further, Roy was always supportive of Nate. Always backed Nate up, as he felt Nate did with him. I think last night was the first time that Roy felt truly alone. Even the coach that always supported him, turned his back on him.

    I think that would break anyone.
     
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    Re: Have you heard the audio of Roy's concerns?

    He said it publicly Ty. Come on, you know this. I was defending Miller last season too.
     
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    Re: Have you heard the audio of Roy's concerns?

    Miller's confrontation with Nate was at a practice in early January. It was loud and overheard by members of the media. It wasn't Miller complaing to the media about his role, it was him confronting his coach directly. That's not throwing your coach under the bus, that's taking a direct approach to trying to resolve an issue. Don't you see the difference?

    Roy aired his complaints to the media. And, he did it during the playoffs. If he has a problem with Nate and his PT, he should address it directly with Nate and not try to work the issue through the local media - who just love any sign of discontent when it comes to this team.

    Besides, Miller was right and Roy is wrong. Miller was playing better than Blake and deserved more minutes. Roy is playing like absolute crap on both ends pf the court and should be the LAST person on this team complaining about playing time.

    BNM
     
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    Re: Have you heard the audio of Roy's concerns?

    I can understand Roy being frustrated, but no one is trying to take advantage of him or committing an injustice toward him. In such a case, I think it's his responsibility to keep his frustrations to himself (and his inner circle, whomever they are). The team paid him a lot and he won't provide a return on that investment. That isn't his fault, but I think that that kind of money does carry a few obligations. One is not to be a distraction due to his frustration over a bad luck circumstance that no one created for him. If McMillan had destroyed his career or if Andre Miller had cut his hamstring, by all means, speak up. Being paid a lot doesn't mean having to remain silent about wrong-doing done him. But no one did him wrong so, as a professional, he should try to avoid disrupting his team's focus.

    Hopefully, though, their focus isn't affected by his laments.
     
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    Re: Have you heard the audio of Roy's concerns?

    You're wrong. Miller and Nate got into a shouting match at practice that happened to be loud enough to be overheard by members of the media. Miller was addressing Nate directly, not speaking to anyone in the local media.

    BNM
     
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    Re: Have you heard the audio of Roy's concerns?

    WINNER!!!
     
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    Re: Have you heard the audio of Roy's concerns?

    I can agree with all points in this thread, and I wasn't trying to knock Miller for the comments he made about his playing time last season. In fact, I want to go on record that I was in full support for him being vocal about it. Regardless, I am just a little saddened by the insensitivity of the Blazer fans on a player that did put his body, desire and will for this franchise. I wish he would just get traded, maybe some team would take the risk, so he can work back into his old self.

    This just stinks of the days Drexler was injured and the team gave the team to Cliff Robinson. Then Drexler went to Houston to win a title. In fact, Kersey, Porter and even Rider all left Portland and won a title with another team.

    I think people looking outside in still thinks Roy has the ability to be great, but would they be willing to take the risk? It just hurts that the very same people that cheered him on when he was hitting all those clutch shots, making the all star team and being labeled a superstar are the very same fans that are yelling for him to get off the court now. I'm a bit too loyal I guess.
     
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    Brandon has been in the league all of 5 years, yet he was going to the press and throwing Miller under the bus both last year and this. Why? Because he felt Andre's play didn't compliment his game enough and so he didn't accept the coaches decision to play the "historically great" vet of 11 seasons for the betterment of the team. He is the same self centered jock now as then.

    His knees are now shot to the point he moves at the speed of a back up Big... dude can't even stay in front of Peja on D. On offense his PER for these playoffs is a negative 7.9 The team is down 0-2 and he decides that now of all times is the appropriate moment to go to the O's gossip columnist and cry about being treated poorly???

    It's understandable that he's frustrated as he was an elite player just a short while ago. But that doesn't excuse what he's done at all. Crying to Quick about personal ego crap in the playoffs is only selfish and pathetic. I really can't believe anyone is defending it let alone vehemently

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    Re: Have you heard the audio of Roy's concerns?

    I'm not yelling at him to get off the court. That's not my decision. But, I do think whining to the media about his PT during the playoffs, when he's playing like total crap, is very poor form, very selfish and a huge unecessary distraction. If he has a problem with Nate, he should talk to Nate, not Jason Quick.

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    Re: Have you heard the audio of Roy's concerns?

    https://twitter.com/#!/Channing_Frye
     
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    Re: Have you heard the audio of Roy's concerns?

    Oh shit, everyone outside actually has compassion for Roy. Who said we have the best fan base?!?! We have the Best Fan Base for Players that are in the NOW. No fans of yesteryear. I may change my moniker to "What Have you done for me Lately PDX?"
     
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    Re: Have you heard the audio of Roy's concerns?

    Come on Mags, deal with reality here and quit trying to make excuses for Roy, it's gettin old.
     
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    Re: Have you heard the audio of Roy's concerns?

    You act like Roy did it as a favor for the team. He put out that effort in order to excel as an individual. He would never have consented to play for free--nor should he have. But let's not twist this as Roy being a hero who sacrificed to give Oregon orphans a small bit of happiness. He joined the Blazers because he was forced to, as a draftee, and then negotiated the best deal he could when he had the chance. He was an excellent player, but he was doing it for his benefit, not for Portland's.

    There's no insensitivity in recognizing that Roy doesn't have much basketball value now. Blazers fans enjoyed what he did contribute and the team rewarded him amply.
     
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    This kind of topic is the reason I'm not super upset about a looming lockout. A year off from Blazers related drama would probably do us all some good ... not necessarily to the good of the franchise and its chance of fielding a winning team, but for the rest of us.
     
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    I feel ya man. couldn't agree more.
     
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    Re: Have you heard the audio of Roy's concerns?

    Your a trip. Channing Frye doesn't know whats best for the Blazers. He's speaking up for a friend. Roy has hurt the team more than he's helped in these playoffs. This isn't YMCA ball where feelings should be put into consideration. Were trying to win a series here, Roy at his current play is not helping this team win. He can go to the media and pout if he wants, I'm sure its a harsh reality for him. I'm hoping this isn't causing any friction. We don't need it right now.
     

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