Roy Felt "Hurt" He Didn't Play More

apples and oranges... how does this escape you?

The Miller article you are quoting is from the preseason. Roy is crying about his role in the middle of the playoffs. Miller was clearly superior to Blake. Roy is at the back of the rotation because they have many other superior wing players.

If this were a popularity contest, Roy would start ahead of anyone on the roster... but it's about winning games.

STOMP

 

The point is that Miller, when he could have been a team player as the new guy, instead chose to complain to Yahoo! Sports. You making excuses for him doesn't really make a difference.

 

So how long do we have to reward Roy for once being a good player? Will he still be demanding to start when he's 50? And will some fans still be defending him?

I don't know anyone who is insensitive to how Roy must be feeling. I know a whole lot of people who think he has not been playing good basketball, that he is a detriment to winning more often than not when he is on the floor, and that his comments now, as in the past two years, are selfish.

Roy is not now nor has he ever been a 'leader.' Much like $amon, Roy seemingly is incapable of putting the team first in his comments to the media. Roy was once a very talented, and selfish, basketball player. Now he is a physically limited, and selfish, basketball player.

I feel badly for Brandon the person, but not badly enough that I want him negatively impacting the performance of my favorite team. If his feelings are hurt, maybe he can soak a few thousand hundred dollar bills in liniment and pay someone to wrap him up in them. I think he's been rewarded, and "appre$iated" enough.

Does anyone really think Brandon Roy or 90% of professional athletes really give a shit about the fans? Really? But I'm supposed to cry for him because his coach chose to respond to his poor play by reducing his minutes in a critical playoff game? Not gonna happen.

 

Miller was right. He was much better than Blake and shouldn't have been on the bench. When Roy went to the media, it was to essentially say that things should never change. People were less sure he was right about that.

So that's how they weren't comparable. Many people didn't think Roy had as good a point as Miller. If you did, then your mileage will differ.

 

My jaw dropped when I read about this. It's just not the time to be saying things like that. Maybe I'm being paranoid, but I think the pressure is starting to harm team cohesion. I just noticed Wes was calling out Patty on twitter about focus. This team started winning and doing well when they solidified behind a common goal, now it seems like they may be going towards "every man for himself". The guys need to get back to having fun playing together, not treating these games like a series of funerals.

 

Saying he would have never came here if he thought he was going to be coming off the bench is a pretty bush league thing to say, especially to the media, and is exactly the kind of thing Roy would get killed for.

As far as Roy, he was right, and he did have a good point(at least as good as Miller).

The Blazers just won 54 games with their starting 5 and Blake is the style of player that is the best fit next to Roy since he spaces the floor. There's absolutely nothing false about what Roy said, but he got killed for it.

Roy, the franchise player, was treated unfairly for saying some stuff that was true and made a lot of sense. Miller otoh got away with it, which makes no sense to me.

If you kill Roy for his comments, you have to kill Miller for doing the same thing. Miller going to the media and saying that is bush league, imo. He vented his frustrations to the media just like Roy. Saying Miller was more right(which isn't even true) is a bad position to take. Miller still aired it out to the media and that's what Roy gets killed for.

 

You Roy homers are really pathetic....

There is no comparison....

Who does Roy deserve to play over? What has he shown in the 1st 2 games of the playoffs to warrant playing more minutes or playing over Wesley Matthews\Nic Batum?

Don't give me this bs about Rudy Fernandez, he played 11 minutes last night...interestingly enough he was more prouductive and didn't whine like a little baby about it either......

Roy played almost the entire 4th quarter in Game 1, he was 1-7 and played piss poor defense.....he looked worse in Game 2...and his "answer" to that is "well I needed more minutes". Really? You mean like the minutes you got in Game 1? You know where you produced jack shit? The guy is a career 19ppg scorer and somehow woud have us all believe that he is unable to score unless he a) plays a ton of minutes, b) preferably starts & most importantly c) has the offense\ball run through him....even though he has shown VERY little to warrant ANY of those things occurring....

the guy is a certifiable mental case....he is still suffering from delusions of grandeur.

and need I remind you homers out there that unlike Roy, who clearly is NOT performing...Miller WAS performing and performing MUCH better than Blake....there was no debate on who was\is the better PG, nor should there have been a debate over who should have been starting....

So go ahead Roy homers, show us how Roy should deserve to start, how he deserves to have the offense run through him or how his play in game 1 or 2 clearly shows he needs more minutes.....

and BTW, Roy has been rewarded (handsomely I might add) for what he HAS done for this franchise...but all that stuff he HAS done doesn't mean shit to helping the team win NOW....and if you can't see the disconnect there (like our resident douchebag Canzano) then you are a fucking fool....

 

Well, that settles it. Close the thread, mods!

 

Yeah you probably should...

truth fucking hurts

 

You Roy-bashers are really pathetic.

The guy gets asked a question about how it feels to only play 8 minutes in a playoff game when you've been a All-Star the previous 3 years. He does what Brandon always does and answers the question honestly. He doesn't blow the usual rah-rah, politically correct bullshit smoke up everyone's ass. Instead, he tells us the truth about how bad it hurts. He still believes that he can contribute and make a difference in this series. You can question his judgment. You can say that he should have said it differently. You can say that he should have simply answered with a "no comment". What you can't say with any truth is that you know how his knees feel. You can't say with any honesty that you know what he would be able to do if given enough playing time 2G spot to get into some sort of rhythm because he simply hasn't been given that chance. He's been shoved into a role of spot minutes essentially playing out of position as a make-do PG. His contract has absolutely nothing to do with this issue, but you nimrods can't seem to quit harping on it.

There's a game to be played tonight, so I'd suggest that it's time to move on.

 

What exactly is enough time? He's been routinely given 20+ minutes but hasn't contributed very much.

 

When is the last time you saw Roy get ANY minutes where he was clearly playing the 2G spot?

 

No he just cried saying he would sit out for 2 years! LMAO!

http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2010/08/disgruntled_rudy_fernandez_pre.html

 

I am not one that thinks he should start, or deserves to. But I do think he deserves more than 8 minutes in a ball game. Anyone that knows Roy's game, knows that he needs time to get into rhythm. If you think Kobe can come in for 8 minutes a game and produce, you are fooling yourself and pathetic. I've seen games when even Aldridge has "dry spells" and won't score for 8 minutes. Kobe, LJ, Wade, Melo all had these same type of spells.

Also, if you want to bring up game 1, remember last night Kobe had a terrible night on the floor. Guess Laker fans should call him out and bench his ass too. Talk about Pathetic! HAHAHAHAHAHA

 

BULLSHIT

If he wants more minutes then PROVE to Nate that you deserve them, it is that fucking simple. IF his knees are greatly affecting his play then he shouldn't be out there, and if his knees aren't bothering him then quite frankly the cause for concern is much greater because it clearly shows the guy has a mental problem.

He had all 4th quarter in game 1 to get in a rhythm and he was a compete non factor out there. He got a "heat check" in game 2 and looked worse. He didn't deserve the minutes...and no matter what he HAS done previously for this franchise, it doesn't mean a damm thing to helping the team win NOW.

You know I don't recall hearing Wesley Matthews whine about his minutes after Game 1 and Nate laughingly admitted he "forgot" about him? I don't recall Rudy complaining about only playing 11 minutes in Game 2? I DO recall Gerald Wallace refreshingly state how he was "awful" in game 1, but you see with Roy, that apparently isn't the case.

 

After Game 2 he said that? Or before the season started? Yeah, that is what I thought. Read what I wrote.

I guarantee you Kobe could score the basketball, but this is a ridiculous comparison now isn't it? Because Kobe, unlike Roy has cartilage in his knees, and Kobe, unlike Roy has been healthy and perfoming at a high level all season, and Kobe unlike Roy has actually led his team past the FIRST FUCKING ROUND.

I'll tell you what is pathetic....is trying to compare Roy's situation to Kobe...

Seriously? You are actually going to try and make a comparison here? Roy, outside of what 1 game this year has been pretty "terrible" and you think that equates to Kobe having ONE "terrible" night? Dude, a little perspective might be in order.

 

If Rudy and Wesley were doing something wonderful on the court, you'd have a better case. They've all sucked.

I'm all for Nate doing what he thinks is best for the team and from what he said yesterday, that's what he's going to do tonight. But what I'm seeing out of far too many fans is the presumption that they know that Brandon can't play, that what he said is because he's a crybaby instead of because it reflects what he really feels he has to offer the team, and that because Brandon has a big fat contract and isn't producing due to no fault of his own, he somehow deserves the fan's scorn.

 

Just stating the obvious. You talk like Fernandez is this model player that never complained and don't go back peddling on it. No he didn't say it in the playoffs, he was a distraction for 2 fucking years! Dude get over yourself. Fact is, I am proving that players are human and say things like this when things aren't going their way.

You act like Roy wasn't mentioned in the same breath as those other greats. Boy how the memory of Blazer fans fade so quickly.

Here's a fact:

Walton = Face of franchise. Injury problems and Portland turned their back and traded him. Won a title in Boston.

Drexler = Face of franchise. Got an injury, then the team was given to Robinson and he was traded the next year. Won a title in Houston.

Kersey = Face of franchise. Got an injury, and his role on the team was diminished. Left Portland to win a title in SAS.

Grant = face of franchise. Got an injury, and his role on the team was diminished. Was traded to Miami and won a title with the Lakers.

Roy = face of franchise. Got an injury, and his role on the team was diminished. What happens next?

 

There is nothing to "get over", nor is there any backpeddling, your trying to infer something I never stated. I never said Rudy wasn't a little crybaby, he certainly is, but that doesn't negate the fact that Roy is acting like one right now.

Look, Roy can either keep whining about his fate like he is now, or fucking do something about it. Go out there and SHOW Nate by his play that he deserves more minutes. If he only gets 8 minutes then prove in those minutes that he needs more, isn't that what Nate asks of any of his players?