Rudy Injury Thread

My larger point is that knowingly exacerbating an emotional situation by simply being contrarian, while at the same time ignoring completely trollish posts by a Laker poster, inflamed what was just a normal thread. I'm clearly not afraid of conflict, but others apparently left the board tonight when all they wanted to do was enjoy the victory and complain about Ariza's flagrant foul. So, when they were belittled/challenged for doing so, while at the same time having to read a Laker poster talk about Rudy being "brittle" while we don't know his condition, I can't blame anyone for responding in an even more emotional manner and logging off of the board.

Anyhow, I guess whatever point you two were trying to make has been made to someone, somewhere. Later.

 

You should really work on your self-awareness, Ed. You could have handled this much better tonight, and instead you ran off posters who simply wanted to enjoy the victory with fellow fans.

 

I said nothing about your emotional intelligence, nor do I care about it. I was talking specifically about this thread and the written results of your actions in it. So, if you are self-aware, then my previous opinion stands. If my previous opinion is false, I advise you try to become more self-aware.

 

They aren't at odds, and the point is moot anyhow since they already checked out for the night. Solid job!

 

This is the feeling that I think most Blazer fans had tonight..

 

odom will be suspended. he left the bench during an altercation. he is automatically suspended for one game. the nba is very consistent with that.

i expect that ariza also will probably be suspended for one game. that is the suspension that al horford got when he injured tj ford on a play that was a similar scenario.

 

He should be suspended a minimum of one game. Intent is totally irrelevant. If you read the NBA rule on flagrant fouls, there is no mention of intent to injure, as that assumes something about what a person is thinking when they commit the foul. So, as far as any suspension goes, whether or not Ariza intended to injure Rudy isn't a consideration.

What Ariza did, by his actions, was recklessly endanger the health and safety of another player. And, for that, he deserves a suspension of at least one game. When Al Horford injured TJ Ford by hitting him from behind on a break away last season he was much more remorseful than Ariza. He even spent several hours with Ford at the hospital the night of the injury - and he still got suspended for one game. Ariza deserves at least as much. He needs to learn that, no matter what the situation, you simply don't do reckless shit that puts another player in danger. That is the purpose of the rule and the suspension. The suspension should be forthcoming and it will be based on the action, not the intent - just like in the Horford/Ford situation last season.

He left the immediate bench area - an infraction that earns him an automatic one game suspension regardless of what he did after he left the bench. The NBA will review the tapes from the game and when they do, Odom should get the automatic one game suspension. This is a very clear cut rule with no room for interpretation. Did he leave the bench? Yes. Automatic one game suspension.

They were in the game at the time. Therefore, they didn't leave the bench and should not be suspended. If the league wants to fine them, big deal. Such fines are pretty meaningless. Sticky up for an injured teammate is much more important than handing over a few thousand dollars to the league.

BNM

 

One thing that struck me while watching it in real time.... Rudy layed there by himself, it seemed, while the fracas occurred over at the Laker bench (until doctors arrived). The only player that went to check on him was Farmar, who then quickly tried to intercede between his teammates and the Blazers. I can understand why Roy, Aldridge, Outlaw, etc would want to stand up for their teammate, but I think my first reaction would have been to see if he was okay.

Secondly, and I brought this up in another thread, but I can only imagine how Pau Gasol felt during that whole thing. Here is a close friend of his writhing in pain on the ground, and a teammate of his who put him there. How would you feel? What would you do?

Thirdly, I must also say that I was a bit surprised to see our guys celebrating after the game. I kinda expected them to quickly leave the court and head to the hospital to check on Rudy. Much is made about how close this team is, and one of their teammates was rolled off the court on a gurney. Not something to be taken lightly. I realize a lot of it was probably done as a precaution, but still.... a very somber moment. I expected our boys to be a little more concerned with Rudy's well being.

 

Maybe they were told by team personnel that Rudy was all right, and there was no need to be worried. He might even be back at practice tomorrow, who knows.

I'm sure there was no disrespect.

 

i don't think you can fault anyone for that. there's no way to know how you'd react until you're in that spot. there was also no way to know how badly rudy was injured. i definitely have a lot of respect for farmar though trying to see if rudy was ok and was prepared to help him up and then eventually went away to pull some lakers back to the bench.

 

I understand, but I'm just relaying my thoughts at the time of the event. It just seemed kind of sad to see Rudy laying there, by himself, while this shoving match broke out a mere feet from his head.

 

And you did see the players get together and pray while Rudy was being taken care of. How often do you see that happen in the NBA? I thought that was a heartfelt moment..

 

Do you know that none of them have visited him in the hospital, or are you just assuming they have not?

And, even if they haven't, it may have been on doctors orders (no visitors) or hospital policy (family members only after visiting hours).

BNM

 

Definitely. As soon as I saw Monty Williams with his head down and the players huddled around him, I knew they were saying a prayer for Rudy.

BNM

 

None of his teammates could leave the bench or face a one game suspension. The four that were in the game were being pushed away or being held back in order to keep the situation from escalating.

BNM

 

I didn't say that BNM. I said I was surprised to see them standing around celebrating, and that I kinda expected them to just leave the court and go see Rudy in the hospital. I guess my point is, it was a bitter sweet win with Rudy being taken away in an ambulance.

 

They were being held back because they all went to get in Ariza's face... they weren't being held back from helping Rudy.

 

Another video from inside the arena.. nice chant starting up at the :07 mark. haha.

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