Rumor: Outlaw for Conley swap?

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  1. crowTrobot

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    i wouldn't do that for conley/gay.
     
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    Portland management was very very high on Conley Jr.
     
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    Well I'd do that deal for just Gay. :P
     
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    Thx, I though so but nice that someone else remembers that
     
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    I don't really understand why they would be, as Conley has never really impressed me. He's not an amazing passer, he's small and his scoring ability is not elite. At best,he strikes me as another Damon Stoudamire.

    But if Portland management is high on him, I'll trust their judgment over mine.
     
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    I would. In a heartbeat. And I really like Rudy and Nic.

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    So would I. And not only do I like Fernandez and Batum, I'm no great fan of Conley. But Rudy Gay would be a real prize. I think he's a talent comparable to Brandon Roy.
     
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    You would do that? You prove my theory yet again.
     
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    I'd at least have to think about a straight up trade of Bayless for Conley (just a deal I made up). Effectively trading last year's #4 pick for this year's #11.

    Bayless had a great summer league, but I just don't see how he fits in as a third string shooting guard (and I don't see him as a PG).

    I never really followed Conley in college except in a few of the Oden games. I guess it is pretty concerning that he hasn't been able to get minutes on a pretty bad Memphis squad. On the other hand, he's basically played his entire career with Oden, so he understands how to feed the ball into the post.
     
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    I actually think that's a fair deal on both sides. We'd dump Blake and/or Sergio along with Raef in another deal (probably for a SF). Outlaw is a great fit for them at the four, and he's more or less a local boy. Getting Oden's BFF here would be great for this team. Conley just isn't gelling with Iavaroni's style and TO paired with Gay and Mayo can really stretch a defense.
     
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    Gay would be, far and away, the best player and prospect in that trade. He would be immediately plugged into our lineup at the 3 and be both short-term and long-term gold for this team.

    Conley I'd be less sure of but there would be a real chance that he could emerge as a force at the PG spot.

    We'd be left with Outlaw as the backup 4 (to go with Ike) and Webster to back up Gay. Conley would go into the mix at the PG spot with Blake and Sergio and Bayless would be getting backup minutes at the 2.

    It'd be a great deal for Portland, even though we'd be giving up a lot.

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    If we got Conley and Gay....
    PG-Conley/Blake/Sergio
    SG-Roy/Bayless
    SF-Gay/Webster
    PF-Aldridge/Outlaw/Diogu
    C-Oden/Pryzbilla

    I'd HATE to deal Rudy, but that team is down right filthy
     
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    If we can trade Outlaw for Conley, yes please.

    Who cares about the logjam, Blake has a TO next year I believe, and we could just trade him along with Raef and other goodies for something if possible.

    There is going to be a logjam at SF when Webster comes back too with the unexpected play of Batum if we decide to keep Travis
     
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    this is pointlessly OT obviously, but i see gay as a volume shooter/scorer who when he isn't shooting tends to disappear. IMO he hasn't shown that he's really more than an average defender or rebounder, and i don't think he'd be that much of an upgrade to what we already have.
     
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    Gay is a star, and is an overall superior player than any of the players we trade. His sheer athleticism alone allows him to be an above average defender. (He's smarter than Outlaw) He's also able to get steals/blocks because he's really active.

    From what I've seen, he's definitively more than just a scorer.
     
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    A slight case of homerism I believe, Gay is VERY GOOD! lol
     
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    Personally, I'm a little tired of the Blazers sucking up to Oden. They drafted Josh McRoberts because he was a friend of Oden's, and now they're trying to get Conley for the same reason. Can we at least wait until Oden has played one productive NBA game before we start officially kissing his ass?
     
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    Ed's all-time favorite player was Dontonio Wingfield, by the way. I don't recall him being much in favor of drafting Brandon Roy, either.

    Gay is a very poor man's Vince Carter. A scorer with no defense. And when I say NO defense, I mean it. Batum, on the other hand, has a much more complete game. He could be a poor man's Tracy McGrady. And even if he isn't, he's more useful for this team than Gay. Hell, Battier was more useful for Memphis than Gay. Gay is about on a par with Outlaw, except he looks less clumsy. Put Outlaw on Memphis and give him the green light and I think he could put up Gay's scoring numbers.
     
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    By whose standards? Most people haven't heard of him, and of those that have it's because of his college career.

    ...and his lack of effort and interest allows him not to be.

    He can also turn the ball over at an alarming rate.

    Gay is the classic high scorer on a bad team. A flashier Michael Redd.
     
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    I would not trade Rudy for Gay straight up. I *like* players who move without the ball, and the NBA has precious few of them. I want to keep the Spaniards together. Batum, too -- he remains too intriguing to give up unless a sure thing is on the other side.

    But Raef/Outlaw/Blake/Ike/ and even Bayless can be traded AFAIAC, if KP thinks it is an improvement. I'd have to think that some combination could fetch a decent starting-quality SF.

    iWatas
     

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