Zombie Sam Bowie lied to the Blazers!!

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  1. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    My recollection was that we shut him down prior to the playoffs that year, but maybe I'm wrong?
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    While being the consensus #1 pick, had the Blazers medical staff done a better job, they would have caught the red flags, like one leg shorter than the other. He walked with a strange gait. I'm surprised that didn't alert them. So had they caught that, they might have chose to go with Durant instead. That's what i'm saying.
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    I bet they are enjoying Ja Morant.

    Anyone seen that clip of Ja tipping a waitress a fat tip? She’s like “oh, you play basketball? You gonna go to the NBA?”
     
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    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    He came back against the sonics I believe
     
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    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    You are correct. Game 2 of the Conference Semifinals was the last game Walton ever played for the Blazers. The Blazers medical staff screwed up big time in my opinion.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    That was the first time I was pissed at the Blazers. What an idiotic trade.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    I also wanted them to draft Barkley over Bowie and Jordan.

    :cheers:
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Barkley was "The Round Mound of Rebound" hahaha
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    IIRC, we got Thompson with the pick from the Malone trade?
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    That's right. Traded down for 2 picks, like a lot of folks suggested this year. Bad idea IMO.

    I wanted Deron Williams in that draft. I was very disappointed.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Deron forgot how to play basketball after being traded to the Nets.
     
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    Malone at center, Lucas at PF; would other teams ever even get a rebound?
     
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    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Yep.
    They traded Moses to the Braves for (what turned into) Rick Robey.

    Robey was traded with Johnny Davis who got them the pick from the Pacers.
     
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    Big difference between 3 and 7, historically. The third pick should get you an all-star caliber player, unless your scouting department simply sucks, while the seventh pick trends more toward, "hopefully a solid starter." In a lot of drafts, like say, this year's, there's not much consensus between players in the 6-15 range. That's where it can be beneficial to trade down.

    I would have preferred Duren (or Sochan) plus whatever we got from trading down, versus the unknown of Sharpe.
     
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    That said, even to this day, "Deron is Deron."
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Deron will always be Deron in our hearts.
     
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    42N8Bounce Red Hot And Rebuilding

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    Agreed. The draft really is a crapshoot. Here's a little analysis I did a few years back. I defined a starter as someone that starts over half of their career games -

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    In that 20-year span, the #3 pick was more successful than the #2 pick. And the #8 picked sucked. #9 and #10 did considerably better.

    57.1% chance of getting an all-star with the #3 pick.
    14.3% chance of getting an all-star with the #7 pick.

    85.7% chance of getting a starter with the #3 pick.
    71.4% chance of getting a starter with the #7 pick.

    As far as general draft trends, there seems to be a significant drop off between the #5 pick and #6. Then the next tier is a big drop off between the #10 pick and #11 pick.

    Trading down to pick up multiple assets is often a good strategy. With so much variability in the draft, getting a couple of swings at it certainly improves your chances of finding that gem.
     
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    SIeepwalker The lone sane poster

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    Somehow the "draft is a crapshoot" discussion made me want to look into the Kings drafting...
    Their last all-star draft pick was Cousins in 2010. After that, the 2010s were ROUGH:

    2011: They had #7 but traded and got #10. Draft Jimmer Fredette
    Notable picks around that position: #9 Kemba, #11 Klay #15 Kawhi

    2012: Drafted T-Rob at #5 (Lillard went #6)

    2013: Drafted McLemore at #7. pretty terrible draft overall.
    Giannis went #15 (probably not a consideration for 7 at that time), CJ went #10

    2014 : Drafted Stauskas at #8 (why do we end up with every failed Kings pick ?)
    Not many big name they could have picked around that time except Lavine at #13

    2015: Cauley-Stein at #6
    Not much after that again except #13 Devin Booker

    2016: Drafted headcase Marquese Chriss at #8 (Sabonis went #11)
    traded for #13 to get Papagiannis
    traded for #28 to get Skal, just between Dejunte Murray (#29) and Paskal Siakam (#27)

    2017: drafted Fox at #5
    traded #10 to Portland to draft Harry Giles (#20) and Justin Jackson (#15)
    notable players drafed: #13 Mitchell, #14 Bam, #19 John Collins, #22 Jarrett Allen #23 OG
    They also originally had #3 (became Tatum) but they traded a pick-swap right to the sixers in 2015 for.... Nothing. To clear cap space and be a bigger player in free agency (lmao). So they basically lost out on Tatum for nothing.

    2018: The big stinker, drafted Bagley III at #2
    (Luka #3, Trae #5)
    notable: traded #37 to Portland (became Trent Jr.)

    2019: No lotto pick because they traded it in 2019 in the same deal that got them nothing.
    (they literally traded a protected 1st and two 1st swap wtf)
     
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    I was leaning toward LaRue Martin the entire time…
     
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    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    Liars. I can not stand them!
     

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