<div class="quote_poster">Clif25 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, I agree. That is why I said this team has a lot of 2's and 3's but only one PG. Monta Ellis is either hit or miss as PG. He can make awesome plays or he makes turnovers. Also I think our Marcus Camby is Andris Biedrins. Sure having another player like Marcus Camby would be nice, but I am not sure how realistic that would be. I suppose trying to land Kevin Garnett could fill that wish - though what the Warriors may be losing may not allow such a deal to happen... But also the Warriors are one of the top shot blocking teams in the NBA. I suppose Camby's rebounding would still be important, but not a very high need in my opinion.</div> Maybe POB can eventually workout to fill the shotblocking/rebounding role ala Marcus Camby. Possibly pursue Anderson Varejao? I do agree Marcus Camby is probably an unrealistic target for the Warriors. I can't imagine Denver dealing him to another Western Conference team if they decide to trade him this offseason.
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> I do agree Marcus Camby is probably an unrealistic target for the Warriors. I can't imagine Denver dealing him to another Western Conference team if they decide to trade him this offseason.</div> I heard that they were looking to move him considering Nene's emergence (and fat contract) and the Nuggets cap situation.
<div class="quote_poster">AnimeFANatic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I heard that they were looking to move him considering Nene's emergence (and fat contract) and the Nuggets cap situation.</div> Yeah the rumor is they're shopping him, but I don't think they plan to trade him to a contending team in the West, unless that team overpaid.
<div class="quote_poster">AnimeFANatic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Seems Odom is going to be moved... Al Harrington + Filler for Odom!</div> I have never been a huge fan of Odom. He has great skills but there has always been something about teams being upset with his performance. He played very well for LA when the Lakers were a top team in the West this season. But I suppose his injury didn't help, but now he seems to be in a similar position where his team isn't thrilled to have him anymore which scares me. Also there is no way I want the Warriors to pay Odom more than 14 and 15 million dollars over the next two seasons. Odom would probably slow this team down a little bit as well, compared to Harrington. If the trade is Foyle and Harrington for Odom, I'd do it - though the Lakers probably wouldn't. Otherwise I say no. But that is just my opinion on Odom...
<div class="quote_poster">Clif25 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I have never been a huge fan of Odom. He has great skills but there has always been something about teams being upset with his performance. He played very well for LA when the Lakers were a top team in the West this season. But I suppose his injury didn't help, but now he seems to be in a similar position where his team isn't thrilled to have him anymore which scares me. Also there is no way I want the Warriors to pay Odom more than 14 and 15 million dollars over the next two seasons. Odom would probably slow this team down a little bit as well, compared to Harrington. If the trade is Foyle and Harrington for Odom, I'd do it - though the Lakers probably wouldn't. Otherwise I say no. But that is just my opinion on Odom...</div> I wasn't being serious, but I just want an extra ball handler that can free Baron up. So that we don't see the mess that we saw in game 5.
<div class="quote_poster">AnimeFANatic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I wasn't being serious, but I just want an extra ball handler that can free Baron up. So that we don't see the mess that we saw in game 5.</div> LOL, I see... I missed your sarcasm. Hopefully Monta Ellis becomes a hit PG this game. He seems either hit or miss. Against the Clippers earlier in the season he was a big hit. Hopefully he comes out and plays like that, without getting his shot blocked as much (vs. Elton Brand). He has to show up to regain some spaceon Devin Harris who had a good game on Tuesday, by coming up with a good game himself.
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Maybe POB can eventually workout to fill the shotblocking/rebounding role ala Marcus Camby. Possibly pursue Anderson Varejao? </div> POB is a huge wild card. He still appears to be pretty far off from contributing but wasn't too bad on the game he got called up to play against the Clips after the huge trade. He also played very well in the D-League the last half of the season and made some good progress. A year in the weight room and another off-season, summer league, and training camp could help quite a bit but I would be surprised if he was anything more than a 10-12 mpg guy to start next season. He may need another year or two of storage before he can contribute. I don't think there are many good FAs out there for us this year. Nocioni would be a great pickup and I think Walton could be a good PF on this team but outside of that there isn't much there. Cassell would also be a nice pickup if he gets bought out of LAC but its kind of stupid of him to think he can just follow Avery's model and he'll be on the fast-track to being a great NBA coach. We also have to keep in mind that our roster is full and we have to deal with possibly re-signing Pietrus, Barnes, Powell and we'll have our first round draft pick and 2 second round picks this year.
I agree with AF, we need another ballhandler, but the problem is we need a healthy ballhandler that can rebound, pass, has an aggressive winner mentality and can finish inside and out with finesse or power. If we got Odom, we take care of passing, rebounding, and scoring inside and out with finesse and power, but health and attitude is a factor... maybe We still need intangibles like guys getting out on those loose balls like Jrich, Pietrus, and Barnes do. I just wish all three could work on their decision-making and ballhandling ability. For this entire series, the guys who were stepping up the most consistently and making other players better were guys like Baron Davis and Sjax. Nobody else was really that great in every single game. Even if Baron and Sjax weren't scoring as efficiently, they were out there creating stuff and setting the table for their teammates. We need an aggressive playmaker like those two guys who can rebound and play big and force all kinds of mismatch problems. Man if we could get Garnett that would rock! I'd trade Biedrins and Jrich for him if the Wolves would take it. But that would be really messed up for Jrich. Trade the one guy that was pushing for playoffs for the fans more than any other player on the team. Then Biedrins... who knows... might be top 5 center some day if he gains weight and keeps most of his hops and quickness.
Back to landing a PG: There is this Finnish guy that I have been reading just a little bit about. He's very young, but he sounds very promising. He's a pass first, pass second PG with a solid shot it sounds like, with great ability of making plays and knowledge of how to run a team. Here's a link to his profile http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=1273 http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/petterikoponen.html Otherwise I don't really know who shines out as PG. I like the possibility of Rudy Fernandez and Conley may be a decent pickup. But yeah, I really don't know much about this year's draft right now. Unlike recent years I guess as Warriors fans we can put all that draft and offseason stuff aside, for playoffs - which is nice.
Ronald Murray has a player option on his contract that pays him less than 2 million dollars. He said that he does not plan on opting out but if he can get in the right situation, for the right dollar, I'm sure that he would rethink his stance. Instead of offering Monta Ellis the farm to come back why not think about the possibility of bringing in Flip next year. I think that he would be absolutely perfect in Nellie's system.
<div class="quote_poster">Iron Shiek Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Ronald Murray has a player option on his contract that pays him less than 2 million dollars. He said that he does not plan on opting out but if he can get in the right situation, for the right dollar, I'm sure that he would rethink his stance. Instead of offering Monta Ellis the farm to come back why not think about the possibility of bringing in Flip next year. I think that he would be absolutely perfect in Nellie's system.</div> Theres no way the Warriors are giving up a great player for nothing and sign Flip.
Ellis has way bigger upside than Flip IMO. We're talking good at both offense and defense. Ellis just needs to be a better playmaker and ballhandler going left.
