Sarah Palin: Trump's Carrier deal is 'crony capitalism'

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  1. Nikolokolus

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    Arguing for Laissez faire capitalism is a "Democratic" position now?

    Okie dokie.
     
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    I'm sorry, did you think I was a Hillary supporter?

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    Palin shmalin. Weird that she's even being mentioned. She was brutalized in this forum for being an airhead. Now people take weight in what she said? SAD
     
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    People's alligence to a party is so silly. I swear to God if Bernie Sanders had done this, democrats would be sucking him off....
     
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    I haven't looked into this deeply, but at face value this is what I would like to see more of. Use taxes and tariffs to keep industries local, yes. But it needs to be implemented more fully, not just targeted to one company. But considering he hasn't started the job yet, I would hope he makes this type of policy more routine.
     
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    A fashion model?
     
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    IMG_1741.JPG Could it be that when the debates were in full bloom that Trump knew about the government contracts on all levels coupled with Carrier? His enterprises also have an empire of buildings. He picked on their decision to move to Mexico and when the issue became a definite business hedge bet as soon as he would be president. We are talking about $100,000 (+) dollar roof top/pent house chillers per building. The service contracts are enormous as well. Multiple that by 50 States and other entities and it is colossal money. Carrier also developed A-410 refrigerant with partners. The one plant in Indiana saved the employee base but also gave Pence a smile too. Trump is touting his businessman skills with this subject.
     
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    A dignified whore?
     
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    No, I didn't. I thought the misogyny might be good to spread around is all.
     
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    Well, yeah. This.
     
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    You mentioned her 8 times (tweets & retweets) on May 27th when she endorsed Trump.
     
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    palin is seriously unhinged. nobody cares what she says except for other unhinged people.
     
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    Wait, I mentioned her.

    Oh............
     
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    1.) My comment was in reply to those in here that called Palin an airhead. The same people now using her words to make a dig on Trump.

    2.) As for my twitter tweets... That was to troll the Ted Cruz supporters rookie. #LearnToTrollThenPost
     
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    fixed it for you, the actual number is closer to 800.

    you say recouped though, which really isnt the case since all the jobs were here before the tax break and carrier announcement. Now there were be 7mil in tax breaks minus the jobs that were lost in comparison to what was previously there. There is a large overall net tax loss when compared to last year. Im not sure how many jobs are still going to Mexico but Ive seen numbers as high as 1300. So rounding down to 1000 and using your math we can also say that the deal actually cost $624 million in in taxable income, 7 million in taxes breaks and another million in workforce retraining and then whatever unemployment benefits add to that. So there is a large overall negative tax impact associated with this deal.
     
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    The $7M is a puny amount of consideration for the deal to be reasonable. The real hammer that Trump used was the thread of eliminating government contracts for Carrier.

    If Carrier had us over a barrel in the negotiations, why settle for the $7M when they could have demanded more?

    I'm all in favor of taxing less, which is what this deal ultimately is. If there are similar tax breaks that can be done across the board to keep jobs here at many companies, I say go for it.
     
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    I also want to make this observation about Trump.

    I don't think he's a typical conservative. I don't think he's a Libertarian, either.

    He's mildly fascist, but so was Obama (ObamaCare cannot be seen as anything but corporate welfare).

    He talks about shrinking government some of the time and then talks about massive spending increases (daycare for everyone) some of the time.

    If it were up to me, I'd call for welfare recipients to work to provide low cost daycare. Why have two+ workers at home with the kids when one can provide daycare for the rest and the rest can go work? (rhetorical question)
     
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    you forgot racist. you think hes a racist.
     
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