Scalia's Poorly Worded Comment Has Merit

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  1. Denny Crane

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    That even if this generation doesn't get ideal educational results, they do learn enough and pass on to the next. It seems like there has been progress. I assume that 30 years ago, fewer blacks were graduating from the selective schools with high grades.
     
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    God only knows how I managed to get all the way through grad school and find a job in my field of choice with me being on that "blacklist." It's a fucking Festivus miracle!
     
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    his post...particularly parental involvement in successful education of children
     
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    Do I detect some uncommonly charitable thinking people here? This AA is ok because it doesn't really effect me or my children. If it does some good, then the few whites kids that were pushed aside is ok since it is for the greater good. The perceived greater good out weights the occasional unequal protection in law that a few white kids must endure. (Or Asian)
    Does this sound like a fine welcome to engrave on the statue of Liberty?

    Should the Navy be required to do this also? The requirements for FC people, those that run the combat weapons systems, is so high, you need to be Mensa ready to become a candidate in the field. Is that fair? Or just reality?
     
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    AA affects the same number of people as not having AA would. Actually, not having AA might hurt generations of people.
     
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    Personally my kids have all grown up but achieved their success through hard work. My son went on academic scholarship to the university and of the 6 friends that went their together..he's the only one who graduated, the rest dropped out. Four of the five other guys were all caucasian and didn't have the grades for scholarships...basically went to college to party, two had to get married after a year there.. Anybody can go to a community college and chip away at a degree while holding a job. In my experience affirmative action hasn't stopped anyone who wants an education from getting one...unwanted pregnancies however ..have
     
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    To float one high, you must push one down unless of course they do not compete for the the same space. But they do compete for the same space. One goes to Stanford, one does not. If good comes from going to Stanford, then one receives the good and the other does not. It must feel good to someone else (in power) to alter the natural selection, because it is illogical and unfair to one while charitable to the other.
     
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    Yeah it does not affect most of us most of the time. But it did affect my daughter, Valdictorian of her class, 4.0 student, super high SAT. Denied entry to Stanford for the purpose of diversity.
    It also just so happens that I was doing the Company College recruiting (one of several) when her class graduated, and Stanford was one of my schools. She graduated from Berkley, 3.9+
    so all was well. I interview one Black kid in the class at Stanford, 3.2 GPA which just put him in over the bar need to hire the minority student. 3.7 was required of the whited kids. However,
    he sort of laughed at the offer, I have no idea what he did after this. My daughter went to work with IBM although I had nothing to do with this.

    I always wondered what the hell difference it made to that kid (or which ever it was) getting her bumped from Stanford to Berkley, instead of him going to Berkley? I will never know,
    but the question seems to me to be valid and it also seems to be just screwing around for the purpose of someone feeling like there are doing some good. I think not, although it sure as hell saved me some money. The price difference was huge.
     

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