Scoot and Sharpe in the backcourt?

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  1. BankTeller

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    That's partly why I want Amen. Can you imagine Amen and Shae fast breaks, with Dame's ability to just trail until he gets to 35 ft of the basket?
     
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    I imagine that as well. But I also imagine it with Ant so I am a little reluctant to move Ant for an aging DDR if we go the Amen route.
    Maybe we can get a vet with the MLE instead? Or roll the dice with Grant at SF and Watford at PF while bringing Amen off the bench as a SF?
     
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    My brother is a big Hornets fan and think they will take Miller lol. So who really knows. I do hope they do take Miller and Scoot falls to us, would fit in nicely in Portland.
     
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    Ridiculously, in the same opinion piece, the writer suggests that Derozan and Patrick Williams are only worth the 11 + filler from Orlando...not even the 6. Yet somehow Derozan is worth the 3 from us? Absolutely insane.
     
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    Scoot will be a young rook and will be lucky to get 15 minutes a night, off the bench.
    Not many young guards come in and have big time impact 1st year at 19.
     
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    He would on most teams in the league where he wasn't having to backup Dame. I do not see why we wouldn't take the trade value on this guy and try to make a legit run with Dame. Obviously another big move or two and subsequent moves will be necessary but if you're going to draft and keep Scoot just tell Dame it's time to move on.
     
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    Because no team with a star would do that deal and it would take a star and a couple more to be a legit contender. It is like trying to keep patching a leaky pipe. It never gets better and replacing it, even though costly, is the only true answer.
     
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    That would definitely send a message to Dame.
     
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    I can respect the idea that the only way to contention is to trade Dame. I just think that idea and this example of it lack imagination and I hope our front office has more options than you seem to think they do. I also don't know what "that deal" you are referring to. We would have to match salaries, so unless the team giving us that star back liked the idea of Scoot and Ant (which they could) we would have to get a third team involved to get good value for Ant. The fact is we have a lot of pieces that could be in play and so a lot of things could change. I hope they do... or I hope the team goes your way and we build around the youth and picks that we already have and add to it what we can for Dame... but giving it a real shot with Dame for once would be my first choice.
     
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    Yeah Dame might like Scoot but people that think Dame will be cool with drafting a 19 year old who is ball dominant and around Dame's height with the best trade piece (pick 3) that we've had since Dame has been here... come on!!! If we choose to draft Scoot then we are choosing Scoot over Dame and should already have a plan in place to capitalize on the back half of that.
     
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    Sharpe averaged 22 minutes a game last season. I don't see any possibility that Scoot plays only 15 minutes a game.
     
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    It has nothing to do with imagination. It has to do with assets, payroll room, and style of play of Dame.

    I don't understand how a tanking team suddenly has valued players to trade for more valued players to build this team? A soon to be 33 year old Lillard who for various reasons hasn't played a full season in the last two years. So imagination isn't what is needed, more like a genie in the bottle.

    I would much rather see Lillard and a championship roster, but with what we have to offer and the braintrust we have to gather it, I don't see it possible. 11 years of various rosters tells me we have never been really that close (no championship appearances). And those were his prime years.

    Not here to argue, just don't believe in magic.
     
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    Yeah. On the chance that we are able to draft Scoot, I think Ant has to be gone, so we have a 3 guard lineup.

    There are 96 minutes between the two starting guard spots.

    Dame 35 mpg
    Sharpe 35 mpg

    That leaves 26 minutes for Scoot.

    The problem is Thybulle. We could have Thybulle take some minutes from the three. Give Scoot 20 minutes, maybe shave Dame back to around 34 minutes, so that opens up 7 minutes and then we could give Tysse the backup small forward minutes so 14 minutes at small forward. That's about 21 minutes total for Thybulle.
     
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    In this scenario I would think Lillard at 30 (maintenance) and Sharpe at 30 (big jump from 22 if 35) would be best case for the players and the team. Agreed with the rest, but I still think it would be a waste of Lillard value to keep him on such a team. And by value, I mean trade value to start the rebuild which has to happen either now or in the next 3 years.
     
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    I honestly feel like if it's Scoot available at 3 then we make the decision to trade the pick or Dame.
     
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    I agree. I would either roll with Scoot or roll with Dame. I don't like straddling the two paths. But..... with that said.... I think there is a scenario where we could make it work. I just don't think it's the best path.
     
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