Season Opener: New York @ Boston

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  1. Bleed Green

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting JWohl:</div><div class="quote_post">Firstly capitilizing your post doesnt make you come off as powerful, intimidating or a 'big man' it makes you look foolish.


    9/7 is pretty good to you? wow your standards must be pretty low..... I'm glad you aren't our GM ..... if that is "pretty good" to you then give me an example of a bad starting PF in the league. Please. Give me a starter that does worse than that.


    He hit the game winning shot? We won?! Really? [​IMG]</div>
    I capitilized because You capitlized also. Maybe capitilized will make you read my point.[​IMG].

    How many times do I have to say this. I think i might have to make a sig with my quote on it. 9/7 is way better then what frye, taylor, and rose can do. If we would've won then Everyone wouldve said how good Davis played. DOnt blame it on Davis. Blame it on the guards.
     
  2. JWohl

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting GotSkillz92:</div><div class="quote_post">I capitilized because You capitlized also. Maybe capitilized will make you read my point.[​IMG].</div>
    I capitalized one word. You capitalized a complete (false and foolish) statement.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">How many times do I have to say this. I think i might have to make a sig with my quote on it. 9/7 is way better then what frye, taylor, and rose can do. If we would've won then Everyone wouldve said how good Davis played. Dont blame it on Davis. Blame it on the guards.</div>
    How many times do I have to say this that you are making an irrelevant argument. No one is saying that frye, taylor and rose can do better we are just giving Davis some of the blame for playing like crap. No matter what anyone else would have done he played poorly, end of story.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Knicks Analyst:</div><div class="quote_post">Gotskillz, is this a joke? Davis was awful, he was not a solid role player. He was terrible, did we watch the same game? I doubt you even watched it from your posts. He was very bad. Period. End of story, especially for a starter.



    Excuse me, but did I not say that it was the fault of the Knicks....Crawford, Marbury and others? I said that it was all of the Knicks' faults! But that many people said that Davis was good, like you. They said this because they look at stats, not the game. They see that he hit a big shot - so is he excused from playing 30 minutes very poorly? No! He was awful, he got off easy because Curry, Marbury, and Crawford were all even worse. Davis deserves to be cited as a weak link, he showed he was one. That's what I was doing, showing that.

    Do you get it now? After all of this? Read my last post over and read this one, I said basically the same thing. Please read my posts more carefully, I think I deserve at least that much.</div>

    Please ready my posts more carefully also. You still havent learned that Davis is the best we can do right now. 9 and 7 is role playing numbers. He's old, rusty, and new. I said Davis played good for his first game as a Knick. Not that Davis is our savior at PF. Davis saved the game for the knicks and played good. More blame should be put on the guards. 11 turnovers, 7 missed free throws. Davis only missed 2 shots and made the GT shots. He also dropped 9/7. But they dont count because theyre lucky.[​IMG] Cut the guy some slack, when it was barely his fault.
     
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    I am not going to comment on the game I did not watch it so I would be stupid to comment on that. However, I would like to know what Knicks fans expected from Antonio Davis? Anyone who has watched him the past two years knows that nine and seven is what your going to get from him. Some nights he will have 12 maybe 15 points, but for the most part he will average nine and seven. To expect anything more from him at this point is ludicrous he is getting up there in age, and is approaching the “mentor” phase of his career. He was a great starter for the Bulls because; although, he is not an all star starting power forward he provided them with toughness and some decent statistics for a man his age. He was basically a mentor who played in a starting role. If a team does not have depth backing up Davis I do not think he should be the starter. I would personally with the roster the Knicks have in place right now start Lee over him. Although, the numbers might be similar Lee is still younger, has more years left on his contract, and the starting experience will likely benefit the Knicks more due to the fact he will most likely be the starter next season after Davis either leaves to return to Chicago or retires.

    Davis did only play one preseason game with the Knicks like Gotskillz mentioned. I do not think his statistics will vary much as time passes, but some of the mistakes that Knicks Analyst mentioned such as moving his feet on defense will improve over time. Truth told Davis is a great starter depending on the team he is on, and the team the Knicks currently have assembled is not the type, which allows him to be a good starter. Just to recap my post into two quick sentences. I don’t think he should be starting I would start Lee. I do however think he had a good game for “ Antonio Davis” this is what you’re going to get from him hate it or love it.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting GotSkillz92:</div><div class="quote_post">Please ready my posts more carefully also. You still havent learned that Davis is the best we can do right now. 9 and 7 is role playing numbers. He's old, rusty, and new. I said Davis played good for his first game as a Knick. Not that Davis is our savior at PF. Davis saved the game for the knicks and played good. More blame should be put on the guards. 11 turnovers, 7 missed free throws. Davis only missed 2 shots and made the GT shots. He also dropped 9/7. But they dont count because theyre lucky.[​IMG] Cut the guy some slack, when it was barely his fault.</div>
    I'm locking it now. But listen once more. I realize that none of the others could have done better, OK?! But Davis got basically none of the blame for the defeat, he got no negative stuff written about him for two reasons. 1) He hit a "big shot" 2) His awful game was overshadowed by the weak performances of more popular players, Marbury and Crawford. So, he got none of the blame, no one complained about him. Many people said that they thought he'd be a contributor. Wohl and I are simply saying, that he is still not a good power forward. He may be the best we have, but Wohl and I are saying that he still isn't good enough. He deserves some blame, realize the facts - 3 TOs, 5 fouls and he slowed down the offense. He does deserve some negative ink, that's what Wohl and I are saying. Even though he wasn't the main reason the Knicks lost, he still was a factor - period. Why should we cut him some slack? Who cares about age? The guy is our starting PF, and he stank. He doesn't deserve any slack. We're not taking the blame away from Marbury and Crawford, we're just saying that while you notice that they are a large part of the reason we lost, you have to notice that Davis was also a factor in the loss. One thing is for certain, he wasn't a good point - he was a weak player and he showed no real promise.

    Since time after time you've failed to understand that very simple message, and since you refuse to carefully read what Wohl and I have posted, and since you're never going to let it all end (you'll probably just keep dragging it on like you have been without paying careful notice to what Wohl and I were saying).
    Because of all of this, I'm locking the thread. Just read this post over once more and hopefully you'll get it. You sure as hell weren't reading it carefully before.

    It's an extremely simple message. Just read it.
     

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