Politics Securing The Border With A Wall, Duh

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Conceded.
     
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  2. MARIS61

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    LOL.

    Shep Smith is an avowed anti-Trumper, as are many people on FOX News.

    That's why they are known as "Fair and balanced news". :cheers:
     
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    I like to assume that all of you are crazy.
     
  5. MARIS61

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    Can't you ever post something that's based in fact?

    Prototypes are/were not "commissioned".

    6 Contractors were commissioned to present their best prototype.

    President Trump has consistently pushed for a concrete wall, as it is obviously more secure.

    He agreed to the Obama-approved Dems-preferred steel fence a couple weeks ago in an enormous concession to prod them into serving the people who pay their exhorbitant salaries. The Dems continue to unreasonably obstruct government from performing.

    I agree with you that we should immediately fund a concrete wall "from sea to shining sea".

    For extra effectiveness we can put a steel fence on top of the wall.

    A few hundred roaming snipers can pick off any super-agile invaders who might circumvent these measures.

    Then we can move on to draining the swamp that protects this attack on our country.
     
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    That's an educated guess.
     
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    Trump today said no to concrete, because... his exact words... "There's acid that can go through concrete."

    So yes, Trump is saying there will be illegals soon carrying giant barrels of acid to the border.
     
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    The government can be opened immediately with a simple signature from Trump. He is using the government as hostage. If he is a great negotiator like he claims then he should have no problem. Democrats have always wanted " boarder" security. They just don't feel the wall is a necessary cost all the way across the boarder. The wall would also cost up to around 5 times more than the 5.8bil so what happens when he wants more money? Shutdown the government again? What about the next thing he wants? Shut down the government till he gets his way? This is a democracy not a dictatorship and you can't use the American people as pawns.
     
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    CNN’s Jim Acosta mocked for accidentally proving that border walls work

    By Brian Flood | Fox News
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    CNN reporter Jim Acosta was mocked for accidentally proving that border walls work in a video he uploaded to Twitter.

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi might want to confiscate someone’s selfie stick.

    CNN’s Jim Acosta was mocked across social media on Thursday for posting a video that was meant to downplay President Trump's claims of a border crisis -- but ended up supporting his argument that border barriers improve security.

    “Here are some of the steel slats that the president’s been talking about,” Acosta said while reporting from the southern border. “But as we’re walking along here, we’re not seeing any kind of imminent danger.”

    The CNN reporter added, “There are no migrants trying to rush toward this fence.”

    Acosta then declared there was “no sign of the national emergency that the president has been talking about” and it was “tranquil” near him. He captioned the video, “I found some steel slats down on the border. But I don’t see anything resembling a national emergency situation.. at least not in the McAllen TX area of the border where Trump will be today.”

    CNN’s chief White House correspondent – who seemingly uploaded the video from a local Burger King – is in Texas awaiting Trump’s border visit. While Acosta often clashes with the president and his aides, pundits suggested he did the president a favor this time.

    Media watchdogs were quick to point out that the CNN reporter’s video helps prove Trump’s point that a wall or barrier along the Southern border could help prevent illegal border crossings.

    “Jim Acosta just posted one of the biggest self owns ever,” social media strategist Caleb Hull responded. ‘He's walking along the border where there's a wall in place talking about how there's nothing that ‘resembles a national emergency situation’ and ‘there's no migrants trying to rush.’ That's because there's a wall, Jim.”

    Others swiping at Acosta included one of his former CNN colleagues Peter Hamby.

    Earlier this week, White House adviser Kellyanne Conway scolded Acosta during a press gaggle, referring to him as a "smarta--" unliked by other reporters.

    Acosta – who has emerged as a household name for grandstanding when Trump and members of his administration are made available to the press – has been praised by liberal comedians such as Jimmy Kimmel and even appeared in the most recent season of the Netflix political drama “House of Cards.”
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cn...for-accidently-proving-that-border-walls-work
     
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    I fact-checked and corrected that for you. :cheers:
     
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    Shame on you. Just hearing his voice made me want to puke.
     
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    you are seriously in denial as you didn't fix anything but fabricate lies. Have some balls and post your own opinions rather than trying to degredate mine or others. Speaking of walls, they seem to be closing in on your boy and like any wild animal with no clue they strike out where they can and in this case, he is striking out at the American people and hurting them because he is pouting.
     
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    Here's what the News Hour says about a border wall:
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/trump-says-walls-work-its-much-more-complicated
    And here's Donnie jr. comparing immigrants to zoo animals:
     
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    Dems didn't seem to have an issue with a wall before
     
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    Well, looks like now they'll get a dam instead.

    I worked for the Corps for over a decade. The largest engineering organization in the world, whose spectacular works stand in countries around the globe.
    It's gonna be a huge, beautiful dam. :cheers:

    White House directs Army Corps of Engineers to look at ways to fund border security

    By Gregg Re | Fox News

    The White House has directed the Army Corps of Engineers to "look at possible ways of funding border security," Press Secretary Sarah Sanders told Fox News on Thursday night, as the ongoing partial federal government shutdown over money for a border wall is less than two days away from becoming the longest in the nation's history.

    Separately, Fox News is told the White House directed the Corps to examine the February 2018 emergency supplemental, which included disaster relief for California, Florida, Texas, and Puerto Rico, among other states, to see what unspent funds could be diverted to a border wall, according to a congressional aide familiar with the matter.

    Such a move still could require the president to declare a national emergency in order to access those funds to build a wall, because they were earmarked for a different purpose. The discussions with the Corps suggest the White House is closely looking at the possibility of declaring such an emergency, as Trump has floated repeatedly in recent days.

    Sanders said Trump has not met with the Corps to discuss the matter.

    Approximately $13.9 billion is available from the congressionally approved February 2018 supplemental spending bill, intended to cover natural disasters, and much of the available money comes from flood control projects, Fox News is told. The Military Construction appropriations bill could provide additional funding in the event of an emergency declaration.

    Earlier Thursday, Trump told reporters, "I have the absolute right to declare a national emergency" and that, "if this doesn't work out...I would almost say definitely.”

    The president, before and after his election, promised that Mexico "is going to pay for the wall." On Thursday, Trump -- reiterating a familiar argument in recent weeks -- said the favorable trade terms in the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA), signed last year but not yet law in the U.S., effectively fund the wall and fulfill that promise.

    "When I say Mexico's gonna pay for the wall -- do you think they're going to write a check?" Trump asked. "No, they're paying for the wall in a great trade deal."

    Texas Republican Sens. Ted Cruz and John Cornyn, speaking at a news conference after President Trump's visit to McAllen, Texas, later in the day, charged that the progressive wing of the Democratic Party was to blame for the partial shutdown and that no compromise seemed likely as a result.

    "I think the president came down, number one, to listen -- to listen to law enforcement, to listen to Border Patrol -- but also to highlight the need for border security," Cruz told reporters. "Border security used to be in Washington an area where you find bipartisan agreement. It still is in Texas. Unfortunately, in Washington, we're in a different environment."

    Cruz added: "The objection of Senate Democrats' to the president's proposal is not a substantive objection. "This was $5.7 billion for border security, including a physical barrier. Both Schumer and virtually all of the Senate Democrats previously voted for $40 billion for border security, including a physical barrier."

    Schumer and other Democrats, including then-Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, supported the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which authorized the construction of some 700 miles of fencing at the border. As of 2015, virtually all of that fencing had been completed, according to government figures.

    "Both Schumer and Pelosi feel captured by the extreme left of the Democratic Party, and so they have forced the shutdown," Cruz added.

    Cornyn, Texas' senior senator, said security experts backed the need for a wall.

    "Yeah, in some places we do need a physical barrier, because that's what the experts tell us -- that's what the Border Patrol tells us," Cornyn said. "I, for one, would rather listen to the experts than the politicians in Washington, D.C."

    Should the White House move forward with an emergency declaration, it has a handful of legal routes to take. The National Emergencies Act grants the president broad authority to declare emergencies, and several federal laws then could clear a path for the White House to move ahead with building a wall.

    One statute, 33 U.S. Code § 2293 - "Reprogramming during national emergencies," permits the president to "apply the resources of the Department of the Army’s civil works program, including funds, personnel, and equipment, to construct or assist in the construction, operation, maintenance, and repair of authorized civil works, military construction, and civil defense projects that are essential to the national defense."

    Another law, 10 U.S. Code § 2808 - "Construction authority in the event of a declaration of war or national emergency," permits the secretary of defense, in a presidentially declared emergency, to use "funds that have been appropriated for military construction" for the purpose of undertaking "military construction projects."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/wh...rps-of-engineers-ways-to-fund-border-security
     
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    I was going to paste a long article about the Rio Grande landowners ...some over 4-5 generations on the land and a Catholic Mission that dates back to the 1800s ...all are protesting any walls on their lands and have taken their case to the courts...Texas by and large is anti wall...they told Trump that today...the local border patrol showed Trump that all the drugs, weapons and contraband were coming in through the existing border stations and ports...not the rural areas..
     
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    This is commendable...my father built expansion bridges after WWII over the Missouri River as a young man before he married. Very well built bridges it turns out.
     
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    Veteran behind GoFundMe for Trump's wall allegedly pocketed money meant for wounded veterans

    The veteran who set up the GoFundMe for President Trump's border wall allegedly pocketed money meant for wounded veterans in the past, according to a new Buzzfeed News investigation.

    Brian Kolfage, a triple amputee and Purple Heart recipient, reportedly previously spearheaded a crowdfunding campaign that raised thousands of dollars for an effort to mentor veterans at military hospitals.

    Kolfage's fundraising effort for Trump's proposed border wall has so far received more than $20 million of a $1 billion goal from 334,860 donations.

    Representatives at the military hospitals told Buzzfeed News that they did not have a record of Kolfage donating the money or working at their facilities.

    GoFundMe spokesman Bobby Whithorne confirmed to Buzzfeed News that Kolfage in 2015 launched a GoFundMe that raised $16,246 under the premise that the money would go to a veteran mentorship program. Whitorne said the money went directly to Kolfage.

    Kolfage in Facebook posts that have been deleted said that he was working with Walter Reed, Brooke Army Medical Center, and Landstuhl Regional Medical Center. Representatives for the centers told Buzzfeed News that they don't have record of Kolfage working with veterans at their facilities.

    “We do not have a record of Mr. Kolfage visiting Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in any official capacity after 2012,” Chief of Public Affairs at Landstuhl Gia Oney told the online outlet. “We have no record of a donation made in his name to Landstuhl Regional Medical Center.”

    Kolfage additionally has documented history of running websites that promoted right-wing conspiracy theories and racist content online, media reports have uncovered.

    Lindsay Lowery, who worked as an employee at one of Kolfage's largest conservative news websites in 2017, told Buzzfeed News that she feels he is mostly concerned with enriching himself and increasing his profile.

    “After I started challenging some of his business decisions that I felt were reckless for the company and for my career, the real Brian emerged,” Lowery told the outlet. “Everything is only about his ‘war hero’ persona and money. If there’s a perceived slight on his part, he viciously attacks people...and, in my case, tries to destroy their life and livelihood.”

    Buzzfeed News reviewed text messages and emails between Kolfage and former employees that show he pushed writers to sensationalize stories.

    During one exchange, Lowery pushed back on Kolfage's demand that she "get creative" when choosing an image for an article that claimed former FBI Director James Comey "committed treason."

    “So get creative like using fake photoshopped images?” she responded, Buzzfeed News reported. “I was kind of taken back at this...”

    “Yup it’s just a graphic. Best story of [the] day,” Kolfage said, according to the outlet.

    “It’s fake,” she said. "I don't see how this [is] making us a legit website."

    “That’s not for u to worry about,” he replied.

    Many of the Facebook pages for Kolfage's conservative ventures were removed from the platform in October of last year as part of a sweep to remove fake news.

    Kolfage declined to comment for the Buzzfeed News report.

    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...d-gofundme-for-trumps-wall-allegedly-pocketed
     
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