Semi-OT: Kevin Love dually dissed

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  1. Minstrel

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    Is it Love? I doubt that. If it comes down to Griffin or Aldridge, I'm sure Stern would select Griffin for the buzz factor...but I'm entirely unconvinced that Love has any buzz factor over Aldridge.
     
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    I don't think it will come down to Griffin and Aldridge.

    If it comes down to Aldridge and anyone, it would be Love. And you don't think Love hasn't had Buzz factor? The guy is almost the great white hope. Plus, he's Mike Love's nephew. How much more current can you get than having an Uncle who is in the Beach Boys!?
     
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    not random people, Portland Trailblazer Nicolas Batum said this in the link provided. What phrase would the kids these days use to describe someone who is calling players from their favorite team derogatory names?

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    who is the other person..batum dissed him, who's the other one? your link is dead
     
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    Next Larry Bird!

    And his uncle ruined the Beach Boys. If his uncle was Brian Wilson, I'd be all for him getting into the All-Star game.
     
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    I'm absolutely loving what Aldridge is doing right now.

    But, c'mon. 30/30 game, average of 20/15 and consecutive double-double streak doesn't have any 'buzz factor'.
     
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    Can you rephrase that post? I didn't really get it.
     
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    To casual fans? No, I don't think so. He's definitely not a glamorous, face-of-the-NBA type of player. I'm making no comment on his actual ability level...just that I don't think he has some fame/star level that would cause Stern to be biased in his favour.
     
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    I'd say he's generated 'buzz' around the league. All you have to do is watch NBA gametime and Sportcenter to see media types rave about him.
     
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    We'll have to agree to disagree. I don't think very many people view Love as one of the glamour stars of the league. I think quite a few view Griffin that way.
     
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    I thought we were talking about Love and Aldridge. What does Griffin got to do, got do with it?
     
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    My original point, to julius, was that Aldridge may lose some "glamour" battle to Griffin, but not to Love. In response to the idea that Stern would select either player (Griffin or Love) over Aldridge as the "it kid."

    Could Aldridge be passed over for Love on merit? Sure, I can see people thinking Love is better than Aldridge, even if I don't. But I don't think Stern would be biased towards Love over Aldridge due to whom he wants to promote.
     
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    Thanks.
     
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    thanks for fixing it... that link illuminates what I've observed

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    you're calling those who are saying Love is missing shots on purpose to pad his rebounding stats haters. Nicolas Batum said Love is missing shots on purpose to pad his rebounding stats in the link provided in the OP (the source of this thread/discussion), so you're calling NB a hater. Of course he's much more then just some random fan making his observations, he's an NBA player from our favorite team. It seems you're hating on the other Blazer starting forward as you've done with Aldridge in the past.

    the 2nd link Rasta provided is spot on with it's analysis/insight into KL's stats and game

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    btw... the article referenced in Rasta's 2nd link which features confessions from a former NBA stat keeper is well worth a read

    here is a direct link to it

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    I have to agree with ZagFan on this one. Specifically citing Sportscenter, when the Blazers played both the Clippers & Wolves recently, each game was relegated to the 2nd 1/2 hour of the broadcast, meriting only about 15 seconds of highlights, despite Aldridge's dominant performances in each. When the Clippers & Wolves played, however, that game was identified the day before as "what to watch for", and was covered at length within the first 10 minutes of that night's broadcast.

    Clearly, ESPN thinks Love has more buzz factor than Aldridge does; otherwise, the Blazers-Clippers game would have received treatment similar to that of Wolves-Clippers.
     
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    I wasn't arguing who is considered a bigger deal between Aldridge and Love. I was arguing that Love isn't considered one of the big, famous stars of the game that would cause Stern to be biased if he had to select between Aldridge and Love. That's what I mean by "buzz factor"...not who is simply better regarded by SportsCenter, but who is someone Stern specifically wants to use for marketing purposes. I can plausibly see Griffin being one of those guys...I doubt that Love is. Gerald Wallace is probably better regarded than Michael Beasley...but that doesn't mean either one has a buzz factor (as I'm using the term--the type of marketing power that would cause Stern to care for one over the other beyond pure performance).
     
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    When I bring up placement in the SC broadcast, I mention it because that is all driven by marketability. I would argue that the fact that Griffin v. Love receives marquee matchup treatment might indicates that you may be underrating the national perception of Love's celebrity and marketing power. And it's not just ESPN; TNT treats him the same way. Further, I also think we can't ignore the fact that Love is a white American player, and there's still an element of the public that will be subconciously drawn to support him.

    Basically, I think the networks and the league have a higher opinion of Love's broad-market appeal than you do.
     
    PtldPlatypus, Jan 24, 2011
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