Ok so if it was just adding him or swapping him with Batum then its a good deal, what would we realistically have to give up to get him? ESPN trade machine wont let you include him in any trades but messing around with it.. Melo makes $22.5 to match that we would need to offer something like Batum $11.7 TRob $3.7 DWright $3.1 McCollum $2.4 Claver $1.4 Or Batum $11.7 Wes $7.2 Claver $1.4
Thats a little better, but do you think that would get it done from NY's perspective? Im not so sure.
This. My take would be they'd want cap space and draft picks if they're not getting an outright superstar in return.
I can't remember the last time a current super star was traded for a current superstar. So I do agree that, if New York is even considering, it would be young talent and cap relief. If you use Batum, CJ, and T. Rob as the main pieces, there are two lotto picks and a good playmaking SF. They also shed a ton of cap space, especially for next summer. I'm not saying this would be their best offer, but it definitely fits the model you just suggested
I think so. Phil's mark is this summer. He will have max money to give to other free agents... If you give them a solid core of role players and youth, other stars would definitely consider.
I think your adding to much homer value to our players. CJ and TRob dont have home run potential, and Batum is solid but he is nearing peak and a NY team of Batum and no one else isnt very good either. with no solid prospect at getting better other than hope for FA. I think Phil's future is with Melo, he has always been a superstar guy and his best talents have been to get the most out of his superstars. If Phil can make it work with Kobe then he can make it work with Melo. My guess is that everyone on NY is up for grabs except Melo.
It's not adding "home run" potential. New York will not get a superstar in return. They won't even get a potential superstar in return. This summer's draft class is pretty weak above pick 6, so that draft isn't much to ooze over. As I said above, this is a position move for Phil. If they are able to get Batum, t. Rob and CJ, they have 2 players that are potential playmakers. T.Rob is the energy guy that requires a lot of minutes to get it, but can still defend, rebound and bring energy. These players would work better with Hardaway, shump and J.R. Smith, who don't share the ball obviously. Portland is giving up a lot for a "win now" move. Also, New York may start winning with these new pieces. They lack sharing, and all three come from a sharing ball club. If they show promise, Phill will have 2 max contracts free to give this summer, btw
It doesn't fit at all. They'd want an amare sized expiring contract and draft picks likely to be at the top of the draft. Batum, CJ, and TRob aren't guys you'd start rebuilding around.
Depends what your plan for the summer is. From what I remembered reading, Phil is looking to get a max star this summer. This trade would give him the opportunity to offer two max contracts. The max expiring with a solid pick does not exist. What team(s) would you think have that available?
Also, you must take into consideration that Melo has a "no trade clause" in his contract. There is no way that he approves going to a team that is going to lose enough to get a top pick.
First of all, it would have to be a team Melo would want to play for. He won't just give up his no trade clause for anyone. Second, you can trade 3x players with expiring contracts, it doesn't have to be the one big expiring contract. Third, the Knicks are a team with a likely high draft pick and big expiring contracts. Fourth, if the Knicks wanted 2 big FAs this summer, why wouldn't they want Melo and another top tier player? They're going to be in exactly that position with ~$20M in cap space as it is. Fifth, the Kevin Love trade might be an indication of what is realistic. TWO home run potential #1 overall picks plus a 25 year old PF coming off a 17 PPG season.
First of all, this is obviously hypothetical on the basis Melo welcomes to be traded to a winning organization. Second, Kevin Love for Melo makes absolutely no sense, since Love will most likely opt out and they get nothing. LBJ is a SF, which overlapse talent. Third, New York would love 2 big time free agents, so moving Melo for a 12 mil (Batum), top 12 pick CJ, plus expiring filler t.rob and whatever else that makes it work would work Fourth, you still didn't give me the expiring team with a top draft pick Melo will okay to be traded to.
Melo is as big a FA as there could be, if he were a FA this summer. So the Knicks already are getting 2 big time free agents, or the equivalent. You need to read and comprehend what I wrote. I didn't suggest a Kevin Love for Melo deal. Sheesh.
I will say this though. I could see Chicago definitely being a suitor for Melo. They have the talent to offer New York and winning culture that would make Melo Happy
Yeah, Amar'e (23.4 mil) and Bargnani (11.5 mil) are set to expire at the end of this season according to hoopshype and basketball-reference.
And JR Smith may opt out of his player option (6.4 mil) if he thinks he can get more after this season.
