Senior Bowl

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    Not 100% reliable, but these are the results I have gathered so far from the weigh ins.DD.com Senior Bowl Weigh-In Notes:Players who helped their stock:South:LSU WR Dwayne Bowe (6022, 222) appeared very cut/built and measured tall.Texas DB Michael Griffin (5114, 195) looked built. Loss of 1 listed inch maybe a plus.Miss St. DL Antonio Johnson (6027, 302) was big and stocky, one to watch this week.Arkansas OT Tony Ugoh (6054, 301) looked strong and thick in the lower body.Miss LB Patrick Willis (6010, 240) looked jacked up and menacing, despite 1 inch short.Texas DB Aaron Ross (6004 191) appeared cut and solid.North:Notre Dame DE Victor Abiamiri (6044, 271) looked extremely built, cut and athletic.Michigan CB Leon Hall (5110, 194) impressed scouts with his muscular, cut ?V? frame.Fresno State CB Marcus McCauley (6005, 200) looked tight, cut and built for speed.Penn St. LB Paul Posluszny (6012, 237) looked natural but was in great shape.Nebraska LB Stewart Bradley (6038, 256) had natural build with potential for growth.Louisville RB Kolby Smith (5112, 214) was very cut but with thick hips and legs.Hawaii OL Samson Satele (6022, 294) appeared naturally athletic for a man his size.Michigan St. QB Drew Stanton (6027, 226) measured tall enough and looked tight.Boston Coll. OT James Marten (6073, 303) measured 2 inches taller than listed.Rutgers RB Brian Leonard (6010, 224) slimmed down to better project as a RB.Players who hurt their stock:South:Texas OL Justin Blaylock (6033, 331) measured short for OT and was doughy.Auburn OL Tim Duckworth (6033, 304) measured 2 inches shorter than listed height.Florida St. LB Buster Davis (5093, 244) just looked small compared to the others.Florida QB Chris Leak (5117, 203) measured slightly smaller than listed.Tennessee OL Arron Sears (6031, 317) measured 1 inch shorter than listed.USC OC Ryan Kalil (6027, 291) wasn?t bad but didn?t impress physically.North:Ohio State DL David Patterson (6017, 274) measured small and appeared sloppy.Louisville DT Amobi Okoye (6021, 274) was real cut for a big man, but weighed light. Note: I have also heard Okoye measured in at 287, I'm waiting for comfirmation on his weight.Pittsburgh QB Tyler Palko (6007, 215) measured 2 inches shorter than listed height.Ohio State QB Troy Smith (6000, 222) measured 1 inch shorter than listed height.Fresno St WR Paul Williams (6010, 200) measured 1 inch short and 10 pounds light.West Virginia OC Dan Mozes (6023, 300) measured 1 inch short but 10 pounds heavy.http://www.draftdaddy.com/blog/blog.cfm
     
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    Damn, how short is Troy Smith now?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Punisher @ Jan 22 2007, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Damn, how short is Troy Smith now?</div>6000 would be EXACTLY 6 Feet that he measured in as.The First Number is the Amount of FeetThe Second and Third Number are the amount of InchesThe 4th Number is how many 1/8's of an inch they are.So 6027 would be 6'2 and 7/8"
     
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    Draft Daddy Blog - North Practice<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>DD.com Senior Bowl North Monday Practice Notes:Conditions at Ladd-Peables Stadium were rainy and damp. This led to numerous fumbles and drops, and in general the day belonged to the defense, to the great chagrin of Jon Gruden, who made his unhappiness with the offense well known.Cal DT Brandon Mebane looked the best out of the North DT crop. He was violent and stout at the point of attack, showing nice upfield burst. He broke through double teams and beat his man all day long.For a player not known as a pass rusher, Nebraska DE Adam Carriker displayed an impressive array of rush moves (swim, rip, push-pull) and looked good in drills. The North seem to be taking a play out of the Huskers book by playing Carriker at tackle, where he was equally disruptive.Louisville DT Amobi Okoye looked good in pass rush drills, often embarrassing the interior player he was going against. He showed violent hand-play and nice explosion, beating his man twice in a row. Not sure how draft experts can project such a player to nose tackle, he appears to be more of a 3-technique pass rusher.Michigan DE Lamarr Woodley had an interesting day, looking violent in pass rush and getting involved with Boston College OT James Marten in some extra curricular activity after the whistle. Marten plays with a nasty streak, which the coaches seemed to enjoy. Not a world beater but his stock is on the rise.Notre Dame DE Victor Abiamiri had an above average practice, garnering praise from the coaches during rush drills. This player seems to be on the rise, and attracted attention from several scouts after practice (see below for notes on teams talking to players)Purdue DE Anthony Spencer displayed excellent pressure around the edge, setting up his man from play to play and often getting the better of the opposition.Penn State LB Paul Posluszny was excellent in pursuit, stuffing the run on several occasions during 11-on-11 drills, and earning the praise of the Bucs coaching staff. The Poz also showed nice sideline to sideline speed in coverage. He is just a natural football player and its apparent to everyone.Pitt LB H.B. Blades and Michigan LB David Harris were very stout against the run, often meeting the runner behind the line in full team drills.In the defensive backfield, the star of the show was Cal CB Daymeion Hughes, who showed very good quicks, nice reaction and instincts. Hughes was all over the North WR in coverage and had several pretty breakups.Fresno State CB Marcus MacCauley also had a very good day, showing excellent straight line speed and hustle during drills.During skeleton drills, Utah DB Eric Weddle had very good acceleration and change of direction, as did Syracuse DB Tanard Jackson. Both worked in at safety.Offensively, as was stated earlier, it was an extremely sloppy performance. There were some highlights however, starting with Louisville RB Kolby Smith. Smith really covers ground once north/south and showed toughness in finishing his runs.Rutgers RB Brian Leonard looked good in receiving drills, showing soft hands and excellent lateral quickness.The Quarterbacks as a group were sub par, with Michigan State QB Drew Stanton the best by far. His passes were crisp and accurate, hitting his receivers in stride.On the other end of many of his passes were brought in by two targets: David Clowney of Virginia Tech and Jason Hill of Washington State. Both players caught more with their hands than bodies and could cover a lot of ground after the catch.Iowa TE Scott Chandler made several pretty catches and by the end of the session was earning vocal praise from the North coaches.On the offensive line, Penn State OT Levi Brown had an up and down session at times he looks like a top 10 pick, at other times he looks like a middle round prospect. He need to work on his consistency but in terms of size/speed ratio is the most impressive of the North offensive linemen.Hawaii OG Samson Satele had his positive moments, holding his blocks well and neutralizing the rusher.DD has other offensive line comments, but as they say, if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything at all. Hopefully the offensive line gets better as the week goes on.Post-Practice ConvosThe weather had the players scrambling for the locker rooms but several teams did conduct interviews with players on the field:Miami Dolphins - QB Drew StantonNY Jets - DE Jay MooreHouston Texans - LB Paul PoslusznyAtlanta Falcons - DT Amobi OkoyeTampa Bay Bucs - WR Jason HillKansas City Chiefs - CB Daymeion HughesCleveland Browns - DE Victor Abiamiri, DT Quinn Pitcock.</div>NFL Draft Countdown<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The ominous looked shady this morning and sure enough the rain came about half way through the North's first practice, sending the sparse group of scouts in attendance running for the covered portion of the bleachers. The product on the field mirrored the weather, with some bright spots were sprinkled into an afternoon of somewhat sloppy play as the prospects practiced in shells (just their helmets and shoulder pads) today. At quarterback this is definitely one of the more talented groups we've seen in a while yet nobody really managed to stand out on the first day. Troy Smith probably looked the best, showcasing a strong arm and good accuracy. The running backs also failed to make a major impression but there were a few notable moments. Northern Illinois' diminutive Garrett Wolfe made a real nice catch against air on a deep ball, possibly answering some of the questions about his ability to help as a receiver out of the backfield. Rutgers fullback Brian Leonard ran hard and seemed to make a positive impression on Jon Gruden while Kolby Smith of Louisville also lined up as a fullback at times. This group of wide receivers definitely lacked a standout today but both Rhema McKnight of Notre Dame and Brandon Myles of West Virginia had their moments. On the flip side of that coin Virginia Tech's David Clowney dropped a couple of balls and struggled a bit. Iowa tight end Scott Chandler was one of the few offensive players to make a big impression, coming through with a number of nice plays in the passing game and displaying good balance. As for Clark Harris of Rutgers, let's just say that if he runs better than a 4.8 I'll be surprised. The offensive lineman definitely had their moments and it seemed like the largest crowd was gathered around "The Pit". James Marten of Boston College struggled with speed rushers but he displayed a nasty attitude and a killer instinct that resulted in a number of pancakes including one against Victor Abiamiri. Marten really has the mentality you look for in an offensive lineman! Iowa's Marshal Yanda also more than held his own against a very talented group of North defensive ends and Manuel Ramirez of Texas Tech got the best of Amobi Okoye in a matchup that I witnessed. The North defense definitely fared a whole lot better than their offensive counterparts and while Louisville's Okoye is not physically opposing and did struggle at times he showed some flashes and displayed outstanding leadership qualities, pumping up his teammates on multiple occasions. Brandon Mebane of Cal, made a number of nice plays and displayed good leverage while Ohio State's Quinn Pitcock had his moments as well. Outside at end the guy who made you take notice wasn't one of the big names but rather Jay Moore of Nebraska, who got the better of Ryan Harris more often than not. Overall though this star-studded group of ends did not dominate the way I thought they would. In the secondary you can already see a battle developing between Leon Hall of Michigan and Daymeion Hughes of Cal and while both made their fair share of plays today I'd declare Hughes the winner by a hair. At safety Aaron Rouse of Virginia Tech struggled with his footwork and looked more like a linebacker than defensive back today. One of the most impressive defensive backs on the field was definitely Eric Weddle of Utah, who was intense, showed some leadership qualities and made a number of nice plays versus the run that drew positive notice from the coaches. Say what you want about him but Weddle is simply a football player and the type of guy who will help some team one way or another. On special teams Maryland punter Adam Podlesh showed off a booming leg and the ball makes a nice loud thud as it comes off his foot. Unfortunately due to time constraints and the weather I did not get to see much of the linebackers so I'll be sure to make them a priority tomorrow. Despite the lack of a real eye-opening performance on either side of the ball it was a good first day overall and there should be some excellent matchups throughout the rest of the week, especially between the offensive and defensive linemen. If I was going to single out the day's top performers the names that would immediately come to mind are Daymeion Hughes, James Marten, Scott Chandler, Jay Moore, and Eric Weddle but something tells me others are going to emerge as the week progresses. So day one for the North is officially in the books and while it may not have quite lived up to expectations I am confident that will all change tomorrow and with any luck the weather will follow suit.</div>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Jan 22 2007, 06:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/...ts/weighin.htmlOkoye weighed in at 287. Not too bad.</div>Not great though, if he's going to be a nose.And BTW, Leak being 1/8th less than 6' isn't a big deal. He's 1/8th of an inch shorter than Troy Smith. That's not even a corn row.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>while DeMarcus "Tank" Tyler looked big but that's about it.</div>Like I said, a paperweight.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Jan 22 2007, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Jan 22 2007, 06:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/...ts/weighin.htmlOkoye weighed in at 287. Not too bad.</div>Not great though, if he's going to be a nose.And BTW, Leak being 1/8th less than 6' isn't a big deal. He's 1/8th of an inch shorter than Troy Smith. That's not even a corn row.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>while DeMarcus "Tank" Tyler looked big but that's about it.</div>Like I said, a paperweight.</div>I projected Okoye as more of a 3-4 End the entire time because of his questionable weight and his skill-set is more of that of a Three-Technique Defensive Tackle (Like D-Rob). The only people who really projected him as a Nose Tackle is those who didn't look past his Height and Weight. I don't want Leak anyways so his height isn't much of an issue to me. But I don't expect to see him or Troy Smith ended up drafted on the First Day at this rate.January 3rd 2007 - "There are 3 NT's in this draft that are worth taking, Okoye, Tyler, and Doughty (I disagree with you big time on him)." Wasn't it just 20 days ago where you said Tank Tyler was a Nose Tackle and I told you he was fat, lazy, and had a questionable work ethic.http://nflcentral.net/forum/index.php?show...c=9396&st=0South Team Notes - Mondayhttp://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/...s/south122.html
     
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    [quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='81892' date='Jan 23 2007, 10:32 AM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='81872' date='Jan 22 2007, 11:50 PM'][quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='81850' date='Jan 22 2007, 06:46 PM']Wasn't it just 20 days ago where you said Tank Tyler was a Nose Tackle and I told you he was fat, lazy, and had a questionable work ethic.http://nflcentral.net/forum/index.php?show...c=9396&st=0[/quote]Sure, and then I looked into him and called him a Paperweight, and then Gametimes got all huffy about it.
     
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    Fair enough.North Notes - Tuesday.http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/...s/north123.html<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Today the last shall be first, so here are post practice interviews, teams that were seen talking to players:NY Jets: RB Brian LeonardMinnesota Vikings: RB Brian Leonard, LB Stewart BradleySan Diego Chargers: WR Paul Williams, LB Lamarr WoodleyPhiladelphia Eagles: CB Marcus MacCauleyCarolina Panthers: DE\LB Anthony SpencerCleveland Browns: LB Stewart Bradley, CB Leon Hall, CB Daymeion Hughes, OT Levi BrownWashington Redskins: CB Marcus MacCauleyBaltimore Ravens: RB Kolby Smith, WR David ClowneyKansas City Chiefs: RB Tony HuntWeather in Mobile is cold but without rain, and the practice was crisper as a result. As is often the case in these exhibitions, the defense maintains an advantage until the offense gains some cohesion and installs the plays. Everyone was wearing full pads today and the sounds from player collisions resonated through the stadium.The most talented unit on both sides of the ball might be the North defensive backs. They are fast and quick, and have been harassing the North wide outs all week. As mentioned yesterday, Cal cornerback Daymeion Hughes has great hands and excellent quickness. The North used him at kick returner, along with Tech wide receiver David Clowney.Fresno cornerback Marcus MacCauley seems to be getting stronger with each practice, especially notable was his closing and recovery speed, both of which cannot be coached. He as well as Michigan cornerback Leon Hall displayed smooth ball skills during drills, using their hands rather than trapping the ball.Maryland cornerback Josh Wilson continues to improve as the coaches work with his technique. This is a player for whom it is apparent the coaches see a lot of potential.Utah defensive back Eric Weddle and the skills to play corner, and had an above average day, delivering a nice pop in run support during 11-on-11 drills. To a slightlylesser extent, Syracuse defensive back Tanard Jackson also has the range to play corner, and with the way the league is evolving, that’s a quality scouts love in safeties.In the linebacking corp, Nebraska linebacker Stewart Bradley showed improved aggressiveness, especially stuffing the run. This was a player who looked more comfortable in full pads, there was no pulling up upon reaching the ball carrier today. He also shows nice lateral speed for both outside contain and coverage purposes.Penn State linebacker Paul Posluszny continues to lead the North defense, and is making an early bid to be this year’s version of Houston linebacker Demeco Ryans – a player who may or may not astound in workouts but is at home between the chalk lines.Michigan linebacker Prescott Burgess showed good pursuit upfield against the run and his toughness is notable. Fellow Wolverine David Harris continues to bring the lumber on the interior, and along with Pittsburgh linebacker H.B. Blades, it is daunting to run inside on this group. All are talented players who will help some team at the next level.Along the defensive line, Nebraska’s Jay Moore displayed excellent edge rushing skills and pretty good outside contain. Coaches seem to be impressed with his work ethic and intensity. He’s a guy that isn’t incredibly flashy but brings his hardhat and lunchpail every down.His Husker teammate Adam Carriker simply outclassed the competition all day long, and is clearly helping his stock. Carriker threw most of the North linemen (and tight ends) around like rag dolls and was proficient in shedding his man and keeping the line at point of attack. Some sites have this player as a second rounder (or later) let me say right now, that’s not gonna happen. Carriker will be a factor as early as the middle of the first round, and word around the campfire is that Steelers scouts are especially taken with this player.Purdue defensive end Anthony Spencer looks speedy around the edge, and even though is giving up a lot of weight to the North tackles, fights through their mass on the way to the quarterback. This player seems more ideal as an outside linebacker than as a “hand on the ground” defensive end. As an aside, Spencer is sporting a spiffy mohawk this week, and that scores big style points with the DD.com staff.Cal defensive tackle Brandon Mebane continues to impress with his low center of gravity and motor. This player routinely gets under the pads of his opposition and is always going forward, even if he has to claw the turf with his fingernails to do so_Ohio State defensive tackle Quinn Pitcock had a better day than yesterday, displaying excellent inside pass rush moves. David Patterson also had an improved day, but seemed to run out of gas as the practice progressed.Along the offensive line, the nastiness of James Marten has great appeal to the NFL staff in attendance. He had a scuffle with Patterson that got the crowd interested early. This is a player who is unique in the sense that he looks more comfortable playing left tackle than right. He gets beat on occasion but adjusts and improves by the next rep.Penn State tackle Levi Brown seems to be the beneficiary of some quality coaching tips, as his technique was markedly improved today. Especially notable is that he didn’t get overextended and played within his base during drills. Brown has as much physical talent as any player on the roster, once he learns how to control it, could be a top notch tackle. He is a force on running downs and can wash his player past the hole with ease.Ohio State’s Doug Datish worked mostly at guard and had some noteworthy moments, including a pancake during drills. West Virginia’s Dan Mozes bounced back from a tough Monday session with an above average practice today, looking stouter during drills and keeping his feet more.In the wide receiver corps, East Carolina’s Aundrae Allison made two very nice over the shoulder intermediate grabs and showed good adjustment to the ball in the air. He is a player who has deceptive speed, and it will be interesting to see him workout.Fresno State’s Paul Williams has big hands and aggressively breaks to the ball, but his straight line speed needs to be proven before he can move higher on draft boards.Finally, the quarterbacks looked better today as a whole. Ohio State’s Troy Smith had several good balls, but seemed to display happy feet at times, and will tuck and run if not able to find receivers.http://www.draftdaddy.com/blog/blog.cfm</div>Maybe I was wrong about Troy Smith and he will go Day One as they both say he did well today....apparantly Scott Wright agrees with me about Okoye though as a 3-Technique and not a Nose Tackle. I just hope his weight issues cause him to be available when the Jets pick.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Sure, and then I looked into him and called him a Paperweight, and then Gametimes got all huffy about it.</div> [​IMG] Honestly, what's the grudge?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GaMeTiMe @ Jan 24 2007, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Sure, and then I looked into him and called him a Paperweight, and then Gametimes got all huffy about it.</div> [​IMG] Honestly, what's the grudge?</div>Um, there is none. He's just a paperweight.
     
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    Ok, but who really cares if I "got all huffy about it"? Was there a reason to point that out [​IMG]
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GaMeTiMe @ Jan 24 2007, 05:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ok, but who really cares if I "got all huffy about it"? Was there a reason to point that out [​IMG]</div>It gives context to my reaffirmation...
     

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