Sergio a Knick?

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  1. RickyRubio

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    I really don't see KP moving Rudy. Not even for Rubio.
     
  2. RickyRubio

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    Now THAT is the veteran leadership we need! Right SodaPop?
     
  3. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Curry is the anti-Przybilla. He's one of the worst rebounders of his size to play the game and a horrible defender. I don't look for my back-up center to be a big time scorer, but I do want him to play defense and own the boards. Curry would be a huge downgrade in both those areas. So, I'd rather keep Joel than add Curry.

    Too bad you can't combine Curry's offense with Joel's defense and rebounding. You'd have a perennial all-star and borderline Hall of Famer.

    BNM
     
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    Is there a point in there? Or are you just pulling further away from mentioning Cleveland when he asked if a team didn't get contributions from a vet?
     
  5. Minstrel

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    Kind of a silly challenge, since virtually all teams are a mix of rookies and veterans. If Portland wins the championship next season, their "veteran leadership" will come from players like Przybilla and Blake. If one is so inclined to build narratives of "veteran leadership."
     
  6. Wheels

    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Veteran leadership yeah.. but significant contributions? :dunno:
     
  7. RickyRubio

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    The pop is fizzzzzed out. Minstrel just dropped alkaseltzer in the Diet Coke.
     
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    You can talk about leadership all you want. There is something to just going out and kicking some ass that tends to get it done.
     
  9. DaRizzle

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    I dont know if this particular link has been posted...says its all but done

    http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_a...ll_trade_rodriguez_to_knicks_on_draft_night/#
     
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    Where was that veteran leadership out of Blake this post season, then?
     
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    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    trust me.. I'm not one who think Blake fits long term.. I like the guy and his fire.. but hey Khryapa had the same traits.
     
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    Not syaing you do, sorry. In response to saying Blake and Joel will provide veteran leadership. I think too many people say veteran without truly explaining it, and others hear veteran, and just think of age. There's a difference, IMO, between aguy like Antonio McDyess, who can provide a solid veteran presence to our team,a nd a guy like, say, Mikki Moore, who is about the same age.
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    You misunderstand my point. My point is not that Blake and Przybilla will provide veteran leadership. My point is that SodaPopinski's challenge is meaningless, because on virtually any team, you can identify some older players and claim that they meet the standard.

    My own opinion is that "veteran leadership" is an immensely overrated concept and it's an after-the-fact narrative rather than a useful, predictive tool one can use to build a team. If Portland wins a title next year and Blake has some nice games and hits a big shot or two, I guarantee that there will be memes floated that Blake was an invaluable asset to the championship run due to his veteran savvy and coolness under pressure. The fact that such post hoc legends are written doesn't help us (or Pritchard) today decide what the team needs.

    My default is that the team needs talent, preferably in the form of certain skillsets and at certain positions. Whether they come in the form of veterans or young players is not all that relevant to me.
     
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    well said. None of the veteran leadership proponents talk much about the Spurs or Derek Fisher - Fisher sucked this offseason, and veteran leadership is supposed to be his calling card.
     
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    If the rumor is indeed true

    no reason it can not just be Sergio and the #24 to NY for the #8 using one of NY trade exceptions to take on salary

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lsz6du

    No need for Jeffries or Curry or ?

    as far as the #8... think checkers.. hop skip and a jump to get to where you want to go....

    besides.. Curry will more than likely not be available at #8... Minny may take him at #6 according to NBAdraft.net

    EDIT: Added the #24 in the trade
     
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  18. Trader Ed

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    LOL

    Lee is a FA, you can not even talk to him or his agent until July 1
     
  19. RickyRubio

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    I don't think they would do S-Rod for the 8th. Maybe 18th lol but not 8th. They would want us to take a bad contract.
     
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    It's not that a big salary was needed to make the deal work, the idea was that New York wouldn't deal the #8 pick straight up for Rodriguez and would want Portland to take back a bad salary as part of New York's motivation to do the deal.
     

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