Sergio finally realizes

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  1. MARIS61

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    The Spanish Armada certainly was, and when Sergio left the downward spiral started. Then we lost both centers, probably permanently, traded the wrong PG and SF, and now we're just a clumsy hodgepodge of odds and ends now with no PG or C at all for the future core.
     
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    So what color is the sky?
     
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    And by "are blue", what exactly do you mean?

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    The simple answer is, things appear a particular color because they reflect that wavelength of light. The sky, the ocean, and the blue car are all observed to be blue because they reflect the wavelength of light corresponding to blue more than they reflect other wavelengths.

    The sky is blue for the same reason the car is blue and the water is blue. So if the sky isn't blue, neither is your (possibly hypothetical) car.

    Water isn't blue due to the reflection from the sky. Visit an indoor swimming pool sometime.

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    Very, very sad.
     
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    Talk about a thread descending into the abyss...
     
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    If you read the link you'll see this is only true of some things, and not of sky. Sky refracts the light, while solids reflect or absorb. Liquids sometimes do both...or simply transmit.

    As for indoor pools, they are painted blue and the water is (hopefully) clear.

    [video=youtube;Qb8beTBeU1E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb8beTBeU1E[/video]
     
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    And it had such promise for high intellectual discourse before I ruined it all.:sigh:
     
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    And since colours are a perceptual experience, "appearing blue" and "is blue" are generally the same thing. There's no such thing as being "intrinsically blue." Something is/appears blue due to how it interacts with light, to our eyes.
     
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    Are we seriously having a discussion about the 'color' of the sky?

    Can't we just talk about how Sergio never improved his game enough to stay in the league, and didn't make a shit of difference?
     
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    Yes, if you want to build a case based on the difference between reflect and refract then I guess you can. But then you are just saying that air is gaseous and the car is a solid, nothing more profound than that. What determines the color is the wavelength of the photons that bounce off into your eyes.

    Really? Every indoor pool is painted blue? And if you failed to paint one blue, the water would appear clear?

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    Beginning of 2nd paragraph says you are incorrect.

    http://www.dartmouth.edu/~etrnsfer/water.htm
     
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    In any discussion of Sergio, it is critical to first establish the answer to "what color is the sky in your world?"

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    What difference does it make? Both discussions will go around and around and around and nothing will ever be agreed upon.
     
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    Not really. It's just two different uses of the word intrinsic.

    Suppose our eyes functioned such that we could see in the UV spectrum. Would water still be blue? No, it would not. It would be, well, ultra-violet. Not to be confused with ultra-violence, droog.

    But yes, water is intrinsically blue when considering our eyes and how we see the light interacting with it. Which contradicts, by the way, your claim about swimming pools and other bodies of water.

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    And the winner of the secret unannounced quiz is Barfo!

    In the world of fandom opinions, perception is everything.
     
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    That sentence calls water "intrinsically blue" which obviously isn't the use of the word you or I are using (since you called water clear). Or do you now believe water is, in fact, blue?

    By "intrinsic," I meant a quality independent of the perceptual measure used. Things look a certain colour to us due to how our eyes perceive light and how that light interacts with matter. That being the case, it's perfectly reasonable to call the sky blue or to call the ocean blue, because that's the colour we perceive when using our eyes to measure the light's interaction with the atmosphere or ocean.
     
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    Beginning of the fourth paragraph says you are incorrect.

    http://www.dartmouth.edu/~etrnsfer/water.htm
     

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