Sessions - 3 teams close to an offer

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  1. Iwatas

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    I REALLY hope Portland gets some sense and makes a big offer.
     
  2. barfo

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    Well, Milwaukee is obviously going to put their offer (aka match) in last. That's really the only difference between a UFA and an RFA. It is an important difference, but it isn't important for this discussion of whether it is better for a non-Milwaukee team to be the first to submit their offer.

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    It is though, at least if you have 3 suitors. Sessions's agent is obviously trying to drive up bids on a market that has yet to exist. :cheers:
     
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    How so?

    I understand why you make that assumption, but it is an assumption.

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    Of course it is an assumption. 99% of what is discussed on this board is based on opinion/assumption. I don't think Sessions is a good fit. Others disagree. The lack of any offer for him at least makes me feel I'm not completely out of the realm of reality. Portland decided that offering a back-up PF $8 million/per was more important that offering Sessions a similar amount of money.

    I just don't think continuing to go down a list to the next available FA is a good way to go about building a title contender. If the front office thought Sessions was a key, I imagine they would have offered him a Hedo- or Millsap-like deal that Milwaukee would never seriously consider matching.
     
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    At this point is irrelevant unless you actually think no NBA team is going to have him on their team next year. Is it fair to say that Brandon Roy's team is not very interested in him because they haven't resigned him? How about LaMarcus Aldridge? It's the perfect strategy for the Bucks as the teams with cap space are dwindling. If Ramon signs an offer sheet by the Knicks or the Clipps, it'll be for MLE money which would be easily matched on the Bucks end. Don't forget that you're guy, Kirk Hinrich has a PER significantly less than Ramon Sessions and is significantly older.
     
  7. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Well, the Bucks would be offering about MLE money anyways, so they might as well try to sign an extension instead of waiting for another team to offer him more than the MLE/5 years.

    Kirk Hinrich's draw is that he plays great defense, so PER might not be the best measuring tool for him. Sessions is not particularly great at defense.
     
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    Portland and OKC are the only teams that can offer him more than the MLE. OKC already have Westbrook and Harden, so they don't need him, and it doesn't seem like Portland is interested. Worst case scenario for the Bucks is that another team offers him the full MLE. If another team offers him less than that, the Bucks can match and keep him for a lower price. It's definitely in their best interests to wait for the market to set his price.
     
  9. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Or if nothing happens, Sessions could just sign the QO and become an UFA next season. There are definitely advantages if Milwaukee locks up Sessions first.
     
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    Dude.. he's the next Magic Johnson and CP3. Lay off the guy.
     
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    You know I see you constantly say you don't like player X or the front office isn't doing Y right etc. My question is in your esteemed opinion who is the ideal fit at PG for the BLazers. Please don't come back with CP3, Dwill, DRose or Devin Harris. I'm talking remotely feasible to acquire. I'm curious because I get loud and clear that you don't like Sessions or Miller.
     
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    Sessions is not the answer for the Blazers. I hope Blazers don't burn their cap space on him.
     
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    But that's almost certainly not going to happen, at least one team will offer him part of their MLE if not more. If it's less than the full MLE, then the Bucks win. If it's the full MLE, the Bucks get Sessions at the price he probably would've commanded had they offered him an extension July 1st. By waiting, the Bucks have a great chance at keeping him at a lower price.

    Otherwise, I was curious about Sessions' career shooting. For his entire career (college + D-League + NBA), he's shooting three pointers at 38/133 = 29%. I know I combined the NBA and college three point lines, but I think it's a somewhat accurate measure of his perimeter shooting at each stage of his career. link
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    That's definitely not a guarantee. If Sessions was offered a contract less than the full MLE, the Bucks would most certainly match. Would you want to tie up your MLE on a futile effort?
     
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    It's not necessarily futile though. The Bucks just drafted Jennings, who Skiles reportedly is very high on, and signed Ersan Ilyasova, pushing them right towards the luxury tax limit. It's quite possible that their limit for Sessions is below the full MLE.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Maybe.

    It's not like the Bucks haven't done this before. They told Charlie Bell and Mo Williams to go find offers, and they did, and Milwaukee ended up matching both anyways.

    I wouldn't trust Jennings as my starting PG though.
     
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    They still have Ridnour, don't they? Skiles seems pretty willing to trust him.
     
  20. Idog1976

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    They also have Ridnour who can start while they bring Jennings along.


    Edit: I see that Minstrel, who I often agree with, has already said it. Well let me second it. Lol
     

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