Shams: Olshey being investigated for workplace misconduct

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  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    depends on the quality of his farewell performance
     
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  2. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I think people are framing Neil's time here in the wrong way. He inherited a team that was pretty much playoff ready.

    LMA
    Wes
    Nic

    And Dame was basically already the pick before he was hired. So he had most of that playoff starting lineup in place before he took the job. He added a few role players (which is basically what he's good at) and we were able to get our first playoff series win in a long time, but the core of that winning team had nothing to do with Neil.

    Neil killed that team. He let LMA walk for nothing. He traded Nic for garbage. He let Wes and Rolo walk away and he basically tried to start over from near scratch with only Dame from that core. Since LMA left, Neil hasn't been able to put anyone nearly as good next to Dame. That's 7 seasons since LMA left and we still haven't had another All-Star caliber player in that time. He has whiffed on first round picks. He has whiffed on trades. He has whiffed on free agents signings. The guy is honestly mediocre at best.

    Now we find out that he's also a toxic douche. It's time to go.
     
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  4. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Here is a fairly depressing list honestly

     
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    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    clearly he hates Nolan Smith and Wenyen Gabriel.
     
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    Stotts was a class act. There would be no validity to trying to part with him and not pay him.

    Perhaps the team has a chance to fire Neil and not pay them. It makes sense they would consider going that route.
     
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    Only if he acts surprised.
     
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    SlyPokerCat cats rool dogs drool

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    @sheed30 go ahead and do your devils advocate on this take. You can't. Olshey sucks.
     
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    Olshey certainly deserves at the least some credit for the Dame pick. He was the GM at the time. The GM job is to communicate and convince the owner of the best actions to take. Allowing Paul Allen and agreeing himself to go along with a prior recommendation is an action. If that is indeed the one Olshey took, he should get credit for that. Maybe others deserve a ton of credit for the Dame pick, that could be the case too. But saying Neil deserves no credit is incorrect.

    I'm all for firing Neil, but I'm not going to unfairly blame, remove his accomplishments, or unfairly criticize him. There's plenty of justifiable criticisms against him.
     
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    ....... so he was the button hitty guy. Sounds good team! You did all the research for me and I just confirmed what you had already wanted to do. And would have done if you never even hired me.

    He can have a sliver of credit.

    And that sliver if credit awarded him many years if whiffing on things and having us run that treadmill.
     
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    First of all, I don't trust Olshey to make the big trade we need either. Secondly, if the team hires a GM that sees things the way so many fans do and most of the media does then that new GM's first order of business will be to balance this roster and send CJ and whatever else out to get us a forward at CJ's overall level or if other pieces are added, higher. I wouldn't imagine the new GM worrying more about rocking the boat than they would be about making sure this roster makes sense for Dame and Chauncey and making it something they could think of as their own.
     
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    Guaranteed he will end up with another team eventually.
     
  13. tiredhunter

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    The absence of Greg Brown is depressing.
     
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    he has literally never shared the floor with Dame. It's depressing that Lillard isn't throwing Brown assists from the bench?
     
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    The one “great” thing Neil has done is lock that place up. Super hard to get info.
     
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    Crazy Dame assisted JJ Hickson more than Covington, Ant, or Ed Davis. Seems so long ago we had JJ Hickson. I forgot they even played together.
     
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    Hopefully a Russian or Chinese team GM....lol
     
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    It is my understanding, that you just need a little patience.

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  19. Natebishop3

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    Neil has never built a balanced starting unit as good as the one he basically inherited.

    Dame
    Wes
    Nic
    LMA
    Rolo

    That lineup had good defense. Good outside shooting. Length. Rebounding. Grit. This was the team that Stotts was hired to coach. In fairness, Wes has never been the same player since his injury, and LMA bailed, but Neil has done an absolutely horrible job getting back to this balance.

    His absurd marriage to CJ and his inability to acquire a second star has prevented this team from taking the next step.
     
  20. tiredhunter

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    Yes, and/or that they've never gotten any burn together. Though, it is also probably for the best, because a Greg/Dame pick and roll would mean so many injuries and/or fouls somewhere else.
     

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