Tracy McGrady is 27, Yao Ming is only 25...Everyone is saying that this team has to 'win it now and they don't feel like waiting'...blah blah blah...Rudy Gay can come in and contribute, everyone acts like he's unable to do anything at this point and it's ludacris.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jun 29 2006, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Tracy McGrady is 27, Yao Ming is only 25...Everyone is saying that this team has to 'win it now and they don't feel like waiting'...blah blah blah...Rudy Gay can come in and contribute, everyone acts like he's unable to do anything at this point and it's ludacris.</div>Rollout?Like others said, Gay is unproven. If all the players you guys called all-stars actually became all-stars, there wouldn't be anyone outside this draft in it, except for maybe 2 or 3 players. My bet is that Houston didn't want to risk a bust, and that's a fairly high risk.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Jun 29 2006, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Rollout?Like others said, Gay is unproven. If all the players you guys called all-stars actually became all-stars, there wouldn't be anyone outside this draft in it, except for maybe 2 or 3 players. My bet is that Houston didn't want to risk a bust, and that's a fairly high risk.</div>Its basketball, and its managment, your going to take risks. I would already bet anything that he'd be a consistent solid starter for many years, but he could also be a superstar.
Rudy Gay averaged 15/6 on a veteran/dominant team. For a 19 year old he's well on his way and fully able to contribute right away.
This trade can be very good for Houston, its more of a tossup. No rookie will be better then Battier, and Gay will likely never even be half the defender Battier is. And who knows if Gay will end up a bust? this deal helps Houston a lot for now at least. A strong perimeter defender at sf is the key to winning a championship. I dont see them winning the championship, but this will help them a lot come playoff time if they're healthy.
I think this is a bad trade for Houston. Rudy Gay, and Randy Foye I think will be the top 2 guys from this draft. How are you going to trade Rudy Gay is what I wanna know? Like what are they thinking? With T-Mac's injuries espacially you would think they should keep Gay, but no they want to trade Rudy.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jun 29 2006, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This trade can be very good for Houston, its more of a tossup. No rookie will be better then Battier, and Gay will likely never even be half the defender Battier is. And who knows if Gay will end up a bust? this deal helps Houston a lot for now at least. A strong perimeter defender at sf is the key to winning a championship. I dont see them winning the championship, but this will help them a lot come playoff time if they're healthy.</div>Why are you so stuck on defense all the time. Even if Gay doesn't turn out to be the defender Battier is, he could still easily surpass him as a player. He has a much more complete offensive game, he could be a much better scorer. This was NOT good for Houston.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Jun 30 2006, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why are you so stuck on defense all the time. Even if Gay doesn't turn out to be the defender Battier is, he could still easily surpass him as a player. He has a much more complete offensive game, he could be a much better scorer. This was NOT good for Houston.</div>First off Rudy gay will never be a better defender then battier, and also battier came to age a lot last season. not only that but he can also rebound. and again who knows if Rudy Gay will be a bust? He has no outside jumper,and he's below to average at almost everything else. He's pretty much all athletcism. I see him at best turning into a Jerry Stackhouse. and even that is unlikely. Battier is proven,for all we know Gay is hype. You can tell me in 5 years whether it was a bad trade or not.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jun 30 2006, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>First off Rudy gay will never be a better defender then battier, and also battier came to age a lot last season. not only that but he can also rebound. and again who knows if Rudy Gay will be a bust? He has no outside jumper,and he's below to average at almost everything else. He's pretty much all athletcism. I see him at best turning into a Jerry Stackhouse. and even that is unlikely. Battier is proven,for all we know Gay is hype. You can tell me in 5 years whether it was a bad trade or not.</div> Why do you keep talking about these rookies when you know nothing about them? Jerry Stackhouse? Where and the hell do you get that comparison? They are nothing alike. Rudy Gay has a nice jumpshot, he can drive to the basket, he plays hard on defense and he's an elite level athlete. He has everything going for him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jun 30 2006, 02:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why do you keep talking about these rookies when you know nothing about them? Jerry Stackhouse? Where and the hell do you get that comparison? They are nothing alike. Rudy Gay has a nice jumpshot, he can drive to the basket, he plays hard on defense and he's an elite level athlete. He has everything going for him.</div>And you know so much of how he will translate considering he's never played an NBA game. All 1st round picks look nice in college. Secondly, he is not a good defender, and his jumpshot has a lot of work to improve. Yes i said Jerry Stackhouse,good athletcism with a decent jumper,tendecy to take a lot of shots,and poor defender. Rudy Gay.
I just want this trade canceled.... If anything why did we trade Gay AND Swift for Battier? We coulda got something better.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jun 30 2006, 06:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And you know so much of how he will translate considering he's never played an NBA game. All 1st round picks look nice in college. Secondly, he is not a good defender, and his jumpshot has a lot of work to improve. Yes i said Jerry Stackhouse,good athletcism with a decent jumper,tendecy to take a lot of shots,and poor defender. Rudy Gay.</div> Tendency to take a lot of shots are you kidding? Rudy Gay's problem is that he didn't shoot it enough, Jerry Stackhouse is just a flat out ballhog and always has been. Rudy Gay's problem is that he's too passive on offense, just like Marvin Williams. The kid is only 19 years old and played good defense in college, he is huge with long arms and plays hard on defense....He's going to be a very good defender.
Rudy Gay has alot more defensive talent than you think PrimeTime. He is extremely athletic as well all know and he uses that to his advantage on the defensive end. He has a good jump shot from 3 point and mid range but he just doesnt shoot the ball enough in my opinion. So, he found himself getting alot of his points off of dunks and transition baskets...Im not sure if you can even compare him to anybody right now.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>And you know so much of how he will translate considering he's never played an NBA game. All 1st round picks look nice in college. Secondly, he is not a good defender, and his jumpshot has a lot of work to improve. Yes i said Jerry Stackhouse,good athletcism with a decent jumper,tendecy to take a lot of shots,and poor defender. Rudy Gay.</div>2 steals, 2 blocks.Man, hes such an poor defender..O my god, thats hilarious.....
Memphis made a good trade. Houston did ok but, deffinately may regret it if Gay turns into the great player he pretty much already is.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jun 30 2006, 02:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>2 steals, 2 blocks.Man, hes such an poor defender..O my god, thats hilarious.....</div>Well considering Uconn played their worst defense agaist most of the NCAA's top 2s and 3s, id consider hes very overrated on defense. Stats arent relevent at all, can he play a man defense? no. Man D is what makes a great team. I just want to take a side note here and mention my bulls. People say Gordon is a terrible defender, which he's not. He's actually very solid in a man d, espically agaist PGs and he was a huge part of why we were the number one team agaist field goals. I'll take a player who doesnt get any stats and shutsdown a team(Bruce Bowen) then a guy who just puts up stats.
Most of NCAA basketball is dominated by guard/swingman play, most of the great players and stars in college basketball are guards so it wouldn't suprise me that UConn gave up some points to swingmen. Nobody wanted to go into the paint with Rudy Gay, Hilton Armstrong and Josh Boone.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jun 30 2006, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nobody wanted to go into the paint with Rudy Gay, Hilton Armstrong and Josh Boone.</div>Just to clarify that..http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=260160183check that Syracuse vs UCONN box scoreUCONN= 16 blocked shots.Arguably the best defensive team in the nation....
I remember watching the 2nd half of that game, Hilton Armstrong went crazy...that was something to see.
