LMAO!!! some laker fans are SO bitter that they are suddenly calling him "aging" because he's getting in awesome shape imo...shaq will have an mvp caibre season
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">LMAO!!! some laker fans are SO bitter that they are suddenly calling him "aging" because he's getting in awesome shape imo...shaq will have an mvp caibre season</div>Not only that but they say him losing weight will lead to more injuries and he won't be able to withstand heavy hits. Funny, if he was still in L.A., I'm sure they would be praising him for losing the weight and saying he will have an MVP year.
^agreed fully. its not like he's losing weight as in not eating and getting skinny and frail. he's toning and getting more cut. he's not like all skinny...he's just lost the flab that he had. face it lake fans...he looks great. watch out for the daddy this year
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting heatfan83:</div><div class="quote_post">Not only that but they say him losing weight will lead to more injuries and he won't be able to withstand heavy hits. Funny, if he was still in L.A., I'm sure they would be praising him for losing the weight and saying he will have an MVP year.</div> That's ridiculous. When Shaq was very trim early in his career, he didn't get injured. I think he missed 4 regular season games total his first three years in the league. If Shaq's at 300+ pounds with only ~10% body fat and he's 7'1", no one in their right mind can call him frail and injury-prone. And, anyways, its better for players to be slightly underweight than overweight to avoid injury problems.
Just out of curiousity, who said Shaq would be more frail? Cause I've read a lot of posts on this board about Shaq losing weight, but I havent seen one person say that. Shaq IS in great shape now and I haven't seen one person not admit that, so what are you talkin about dj_premium_plus? I'm glad Shaq's finally getting in shape, I just think it's sad that it took a trade to get him to do that. If stays in good shape throughout the season he probably will have an MVP type season, is this a surprise? Seems like you guys are trying to prove the Lakers / "Laker Fans" wrong more than Shaq.
I might have said something along the lines of him being more frail...but that's not what I meant. What I meant was this... What happens when he tries to finish strong, when Magloire/Ming/Wallace/Dampier are hanging all over him? That weight was actually good when it came down to that. Plus, he's not working out with weights...he's using cardio workouts, so his strength will drop a little, but his endurance will go up. Maybe you guys misunderstood me, saying that he won't be able to use his weight to his advantage, and him getting injured. I comment about his injuries because he's been injury-prone these past few years, everything from hamstring, calf musles, and his back...even his toe. That's all I'm saying.
But not anymore since he's more conditioned to play now... he won't get injured taht easily even if he's skinnier... he's still one of the biggest in the league and most dominant, and that's all I care... I hope he wins MVP...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mr.Wade:</div><div class="quote_post">But not anymore since he's more conditioned to play now... he won't get injured taht easily even if he's skinnier... he's still one of the biggest in the league and most dominant, and that's all I care... I hope he wins MVP...</div> Heh, everyone in Miami has same hope for next year.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Need4Sheed:</div><div class="quote_post">I thought Shaq was pretty corny by yelling "Can you dig it". What a dork!</div> , I just keep on thinking about Jamie Foxx making that cocked eyed impression of him. Then mumbles the rest of the way. Oh and it's weird how gains weight during the season. For most ppl they stay the same weight throughout the entire season even when injured. Shaq is still great, but his metabolism sucks.
shaq is better than a lot of time he has the same strength but also he lose weigth and increase his agility, speed, endurance and vertical with that i think this year will be mvp
Listen to what SVG had to say <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Van Gundy scoffed at those obsessing over the additional weight that O'Neal has added during his career, calling it "a media creation." He said that O'Neal is able to carry more weight than most because of his enormous frame. He said he is fully convinced that O'Neal will report in shape when the Heat open training camp in October. "He's a totally unique athlete because we've never seen anybody as big as him before," Van Gundy said. "Everybody wants to make a big deal about his shape, but he's been in good enough shape to win three championships and put up the numbers that he has. You hear that he's 300 pounds and you think that's overweight. But he's been a durable guy, you don't see him get outrun down the court too often and he still plays big minutes."</div>
This is in response to realdealbheal. I'm from LA and I'm an LA fan. But dude man, you're way off. You have got to be one of the more ignorant people out there. Ignorant is not a diss. It's another word for misinformed. Please, if you want to look good, don't ever say that shaq cost the Lakers the championship. His performance in the finals was stellar compared to kobe. And ben wallace didn't do jack against shaq. You can watch all the uncontested dunks shaq had. Your memeory is faulty go look back at the series buddy. If you want to talk about people costing games. Talk about kobe. It is no secret that kobe sabatoged games. That he would purposely miss shots to relay a message. Phil Jackson will admit that too. How about people who don't show up to practice? Jackson wanted to suspend Kobe for not showing up. Kobe is a baby and he cost the lakers everything. Without shaq, the lakers winning pct was 50%. So don't ever say that shaq cost the title. If shaq stayed in the Lakers they would get more rings. But under kobe, It's gonna be a longshot. The alkers have turned into another franchise organization. A team built around a replaceable player. Look at toronto, phili, the magics. All built around players like kobe. History has proven time and time again that a team built around a solid center creates rings. Kareem, Russell, Wilt, Shaq. So if you want to talk about people costing championships, it's kobe. Thanks to kobe you have one of the greatest coaches leaving, the greatest center leaving. And now the lakers are left with nothing but kobe. It's gonna go nowehere. And you're saying stuff like shaq wnated to win somewhere else, Not true. He wasn't even that fat. He was always one of the first back on d. He handled his own. He could carry any team on his back. At least shaq wants to win. If kobe really wanted to win, he would have gone to the spurs. Where it's almost a garuantee he will win. Now in the lakers he has a good chance at a 50% winning average. You don't know what you're talking about man. Do some research...then talk.
Hey fretmanskeeto, you do some research. Go into the Laker threads...come back here, and tell everyone how ignorant you are...because I've clearly stated, many times actually, that the whole team is at fault. If I were you, I wouldn't base your opinion of someone just on a few posts. You're new here, so go look around and read my other posts...and then you can say what you want. In fact, I'll make this experience easy for you... http://www.justbball.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24662 Now when you read this thread, come back in here and let everyone know who was ignorant, and who wasn't...buddy. EDIT: Another thing...you're wrong about the winning percentage. This year, with Kobe (no Shaq), the Lakers won 62% of their games. With Shaq and no Kobe, the Lakers won 60% of their games. Now...maybe you were adding in the games that neither Shaq or Kobe were in...when the Lakers pretty much lost all of them. Do the research...well, I already did. The Lakers without Shaq: Lakers 121, Grizzlies 89 Lakers 120, Wizards 99 Clippers 101, Lakers 98 (no Malone) Minnesota 106, Lakers 90 (no Malone) Denver 113, Lakers 91 (no Malone) Lakers 113, Hawks 67 (no Malone, Lakers win by 46 points) Lakers 89, Cavs 79 (no Malone) Lakers 93, Jazz 86 (no Malone) Lakers without Kobe: Lakers 109, Dallas 93 Timberwolves 97, Lakers 84 Lakers 84, Raptors 83 (barely won) Lakers 111, Cavs 106 (overtime game) Sixers 96, Lakers 73 Lakers 98, Magic 96 (barely beat the Magic???) Lakers 98, Heat 83 Hawks 94, Lakers 93 (lost to the same team they beat by 46???) Lakers 94, Nets 88 Jazz 88, Lakers 83 With Kobe on the team by himself, the Lakers went 5-3, or <font color="Red">.625</font>...six of those games, there was NO REBOUNDER (that's why I mentioned "no Malone"). With Shaq on the team by himself, they went 6-4, or <font color="Red">.600</font>. Here's the thread...Shapecity's research is in the first post, and my research on the regular season is on the second page... http://www.justbball.com/forums/showthread...&highlight=Shaq Have a nice day...from one Laker fan to the "other" Laker fan.
