<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Hot Sauce:</div><div class="quote_post">Since when did Jordan rape a girl?</div> Even if he did you wouldnt remember you would have been like 2.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bdubb:</div><div class="quote_post">Don't categorize all of us man. I give D. Wade his due, he's playing great basketball right now and he should be starting on the all star team. As for Shaq's comments, he's just taking a cheap shot at Kobe.</div> How is it a cheap shot at Kobe, and not a cheap shot at Jordan or Magic or Oscar -- all of whom have had greater NBA careers than Kobe? Personally, when their careers are over, I think Wade had a good shot at being considered greater than Kobe. That isn't an insult to Kobe, but rather high praise for Wade's potential. That's how Shaq's comments should be viewed as well.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">How is it a cheap shot at Kobe, and not a cheap shot at Jordan or Magic or Oscar -- all of whom have had greater NBA careers than Kobe? Personally, when their careers are over, I think Wade had a good shot at being considered greater than Kobe. That isn't an insult to Kobe, but rather high praise for Wade's potential. That's how Shaq's comments should be viewed as well.</div> Who else has Shaq been taking shots at for the last 6 or 7 months? Like I said before he meant it as a cheap shot at Kobe, but he didn't take it into account that his comment can also be aimed at Jordan, Magic, West, Oscar, or whoever. Wade is a hell of a player, and I wouldn't be shocked if he turns out better than Kobe. I don't think he will, but thats my opinion.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bdubb:</div><div class="quote_post">Who else has Shaq been taking shots at for the last 6 or 7 months? Like I said before he meant it as a cheap shot at Kobe, but he didn't take it into account that his comment can also be aimed at Jordan, Magic, West, Oscar, or whoever. Wade is a hell of a player, and I wouldn't be shocked if he turns out better than Kobe. I don't think he will, but thats my opinion.</div> Shaq has taken some shots at Kobe. So what? He was just throwing some bones at the media for them to chew on. Not everything he says should spun as a dig on Kobe, though. That's just being way too sensitive. He may not have even been thinking specifically about Kobe (or Jordan, or Magic, or any others) when he said it.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">Shaq has taken some shots at Kobe. So what? He was just throwing some bones at the media for them to chew on. Not everything he says should spun as a dig on Kobe, though. That's just being way too sensitive. He may not have even been thinking specifically about Kobe (or Jordan, or Magic, or any others) when he said it.</div> If Shaq hasn't taken so many shots at Kobe, no one would think this comment was directed at Kobe. Every time Shaq has a mic in his face he's mentions no. 8, that other guard, or whatever he wants to call him that day. I don't understand Shaq. He's arguable the greatest center of all time, playing on a first place team, favored to go to the finals, has 3 rings, might get another this year, but he always taking shots at Kobe and at the same time claiming to have so much class. That's being way too sensitive.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">How is it a cheap shot at Kobe, and not a cheap shot at Jordan or Magic or Oscar -- all of whom have had greater NBA careers than Kobe? Personally, when their careers are over, I think Wade had a good shot at being considered greater than Kobe. That isn't an insult to Kobe, but rather high praise for Wade's potential. That's how Shaq's comments should be viewed as well.</div> Only time will tell.
Shaq said the exact same thing about Kobe two or three years ago... and I wouldn't be surprised if he had said it in Orlando while playing with Penny. I love Wade, but best guard of all time....? Doubtful.
Shaq just has a big mouth, it has to be understand that he constantly has attention to the media. He really enjoys playing with Wade and wants to get his guard attention. I doubt that Wade will be a top 5 guard of all time, however we don't know what he capable of. I don't think this quote was necessarily a shot against Kobe, I think it was Shaq just trying to hype up D. Wade. Anyway Shaq is entitled to his own opinions.
Come on people, this is the same guy that said Allen Iverson is a Top 5 player of All-Time. But this is Shaq that we're dealing with, so what did you really expect? He's like a little kid trapped in s humongous body. Random things come out of Shaq mouth all the time, so this shouldn't be taken seriously whatsoever.
Avery I have to disagree with you there. Wade is a sensational player, an electric scorer and a good defender as well. His explosive moves into the paint help his teammates get to the next level - just look at Udonis Haslem. And his perimeter shooting may need some tweaks, but that will come in due time. His passing is sensational especially for someone his age, and his courtsense is flat-out incredible. He is all in all a lethal player and a serious threat. His ability to slash to the hoop requires for opposing teams to switch up their original defensive make-up creating holes and openings for Shaq and Haslem. Wade also seems to have an enormous work ethic, he keeps getting better and better - faster and stronger. It seems like he performs better every game. And he played exceptional basketball against New Orleans in the playoffs last year, and he was a rookie. *He may not be the best guard of all time, but easily top 3 the way I see it. *(Assuming he doesn't get a serious injury or something of that sort)
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Knicks Analyst:</div><div class="quote_post"> *He may not be the best guard of all time, but easily top 3 the way I see it. *(Assuming he doesn't get a serious injury or something of that sort)</div> agreed; dwayne wade already is suffering from a list of injuries as he is only playing in his second year of league basketball. Two injuries i know for sure that he suffers from are bad knees and ankle problems. the way dwaynes game is set up, i believe with shaq on his team dwayne could be one of the best gaurds. due to dwaynes playing style it will be interesting to see how he plays when he becomes a little older with all of the contact that he gets everygame. I predict if dwayne were to become an outside threat that he would be one of the top gaurds in the league with his lane capabilities.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">His explosive moves into the paint help his teammates get to the next level - just look at Udonis Haslem</div> I'm not too sure about that. I have to admit you are right to a certain degree?however you have to realize that the Shaq is the one that's really making everyone better. With Shaq in the paint it makes Wade better and which eventually gives Wade the opportunity to make everyone that surrounds him better players. But again in actuality Shaq is the one whom is making everyone entirely better. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">And his perimeter shooting may need some tweaks, but that will come in due time.</div> Tweaks? Wade perimeter shooting needs major tweaks. But then again I don't blame him for not shooting the ball when he can get in the paint at will, but eventually he will HAVE to take perimeter shots. Why? First starters what will happen if one of the Jones?s get injured? If just one of them comes down with an injury the opposing teams can start playing Zone Defense and which will take Wade out of his zone. Next you have Shaquille O?Neal. Shaq won't be along Wade side forever, and once Shaq is out of the equation Wade will now have to take more things upon himself and that includes perimeter shooting. And lastly, there is the injury factor. Like Quickness said, Wade is already suffering from numerous injuries, and while I'm not trying to compare Wade to Iverson because Wade is much more durable if this continues 3-4 years from now (throwing his body in the lane) it will take it's toll on him and he may end up similar to Iverson. (This has nothing to do with his perimeter shooting, but it does put a hault on his potential to be the greatest guard of All-Time) <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">*He may not be the best guard of all time, but easily top 3 the way I see it.</div> I still find it very hard to believe he could even end up being a Top 5 guard of All-Time. Wade has exceptional work ethic like you mentioned and he's just basically the complete package. With that said I could see him being among the Top 5 Guard in the past two decades by the time he calls it quits. But only player that has potent ional as of right now to reach that incredible feat is not other than LeBron James.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Quickness:</div><div class="quote_post">agreed; dwayne wade already is suffering from a list of injuries as he is only playing in his second year of league basketball. Two injuries i know for sure that he suffers from are bad knees and ankle problems. the way dwaynes game is set up, i believe with shaq on his team dwayne could be one of the best gaurds. due to dwaynes playing style it will be interesting to see how he plays when he becomes a little older with all of the contact that he gets everygame. I predict if dwayne were to become an outside threat that he would be one of the top gaurds in the league with his lane capabilities.</div> Having knee and ankle problems this early in his career is a bad sign. If he gets injured in those areas he could wear out prematurely and have a less explosive game as he reaches 28 or so a la Vince Carter. Wade should take precaution and fully heal, not just to push the Heat's record. They have a strong lock and Shaq can take the pressure.
It's obviously a jab at Kobe, which is fine. This is Shaq we're talking about here. This reminds me of the Lakers/Miami game when Kobe missed the buzzer beater at the end and Shaq said in the post game interview "I knew he wasn't going to make it." I mean, are you serious?
Wade? Wade is in his second year. In his second year Oscar averaged over 30pt,12 rbd and 11 assists. Magic Johnson finished his rookie year with a huge game in the NBA title game..filling in at center for an injured Kareem. And Jordan was main man on a team that dominated for several years. Wade may soon be as good as any current G,but Shaq was off on that call
Kobe's such a Jordan wannabe (no offence to K8 fans). But ever noticed how he walks like him, talks like him (i.e Slurs his words) and imitates all his movements. Sometimes i think Kobe has an obsession.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting rocketthruster:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe's such a Jordan wannabe (no offence to K8 fans). But ever noticed how he walks like him, talks like him (i.e Slurs his words) and imitates all his movements. Sometimes i think Kobe has an obsession.</div> Which movements? Can you give some examples?
