Yes i have watched wilt enough to see his offensive capabilities. I have watched Shaq a gazillion times and i have never seen Shaq pull off the moves Wilt did. They have a 4 minute video of wilt on youtube and believe me, shaq could never pull off his moves. You can't even make a 4 minute video of shaq making turn around finger rolls and turaround jumpers from a little far out. You can't because shaq is not that player. He is not the offensive player that wilt is. To stop shaq, you have to deny the post entry. If the defense is good enough, shaq is useless because outside 10 feet shaq's game declines.Secondly, why would i know that wilt would abuse shaq? Because when shaq went up against a guy who actually had some post moves he got destroyed. That guy is named hakeem olajuown and shaq said it himself. Wilt with his sheer athletiscm and moves would make shaq go left and right.Thirdly, you brought up one guy. I could bring up charlier rosen who didn't even mention Shaq as being in his best team ever. He put Wilt at C. And this was about 2 weeks ago so they did take into count Shaq's 4th ring.The fact is that Wilt was the most dominate force the nba has ever season. What i've seen him from him, highlights and matches and quotes and testimonies about him convince me he's better. I've watched shaq extensively and i dont' suffer from amnesia. Shaq was an absolute beast in 2000. But wilt is something else.Secondly, Wilt was also a better shotblocker. He made it to the first team twice. Shaq never. Shaq laziness was why we got destroyed by the pick and roll. He was a mediocre defender.Wilt is also a better passer, stats don't lie in this case. He lead the league in assists. Shaq was a great passer, i must admit that. But he never even averaged 4 aspg. Everything isn't scoring or being dominant, wilt also has shaq's number in other areas.edit: Ok since you said Wilt couldn't win untill he had hall of famers. The question is how do you expect wilt to beat a stacked team like the boston celtics? Wilt was one man, he couldn't do everything on his own. He already one a championship with the sixers before he met up with Jerry west and co.How many championships has Shaq won without phil jackson? 1. He won it with a superstar guard who carried he's ass through the playoffs when he was being useless and couldn't hit a freethrow . It was wade who lead that team and without wade, heat dont make the the ecf even. So please understand teams win championships. Not players.I know as a shaq fan you cannot comprehend negative stuff about him. But understand i do realise Shaq is a beast. But he's no wilt.
Then I would suggest you do so. But, of course, since I'm just a guy over the Internet, you probably wouldn't believe what I said. http://www.nba.com/history/players/mikan_bio.htmlFrom NBA.com (since you don't trust me) As you can see, the lane was widened in Mikan's day, way before Wilt came along. And, yes, I am sure the three-second violation was in effect.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_of_basketball Shaq had first Kobe then Dwyane Wade, both of whom are going to be Hall of Famers. And, tell me, which team is the modern-day Celtics. That team had a HAll of Fame starting lineup, literally.And the only thing about having 17 teams in the league was that the talent was more concentrated, cancelling out any advantage by having a smaller league. Winning a title is still winning a title, you're the best in the league regardless of whether there's 30 or 17 teams.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo061 @ Aug 12 2006, 02:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yes i have watched wilt enough to see his offensive capabilities. I have watched Shaq a gazillion times and i have never seen Shaq pull off the moves Wilt did. They have a 4 minute video of wilt on youtube and believe me, shaq could never pull off his moves. You can't even make a 4 minute video of shaq making turn around finger rolls and turaround jumpers from a little far out. You can't because shaq is not that player. He is not the offensive player that wilt is. To stop shaq, you have to deny the post entry. If the defense is good enough, shaq is useless because outside 10 feet shaq's game declines.Secondly, why would i know that wilt would abuse shaq? Because when shaq went up against a guy who actually had some post moves he got destroyed. That guy is named hakeem olajuown and shaq said it himself. Wilt with his sheer athletiscm and moves would make shaq go left and right.Thirdly, you brought up one guy. I could bring up charlier rosen who didn't even mention Shaq as being in his best team ever. He put Wilt at C. And this was about 2 weeks ago so they did take into count Shaq's 4th ring.The fact is that Wilt was the most dominate force the nba has ever season. What i've seen him from him, highlights and matches and quotes and testimonies about him convince me he's better. I've watched shaq extensively and i dont' suffer from amnesia. Shaq was an absolute beast in 2000. But wilt is something else.Secondly, Wilt was also a better shotblocker. He made it to the first team twice. Shaq never. Shaq laziness was why we got destroyed by the pick and roll. He was a mediocre defender.Wilt is also a better passer, stats don't lie in this case. He lead the league in assists. Shaq was a great passer, i must admit that. But he never even averaged 4 aspg. Everything isn't scoring or being dominant, wilt also has shaq's number in other areas.edit: Ok since you said Wilt couldn't win untill he had hall of famers. The question is how do you expect wilt to beat a stacked team like the boston celtics? Wilt was one man, he couldn't do everything on his own. He already one a championship with the sixers before he met up with Jerry west and co.How many championships has Shaq won without phil jackson? 1. He won it with a superstar guard who carried he's ass through the playoffs when he was being useless and couldn't hit a freethrow . It was wade who lead that team and without wade, heat dont make the the ecf even. So please understand teams win championships. Not players.I know as a shaq fan you cannot comprehend negative stuff about him. But understand i do realise Shaq is a beast. But he's no wilt.</div>WOAH A YOUTUBE VIDEO! YOU MUST BE AN EXPERT ON WILT!Shaq didn't get "owned" by Hakeem in the 95 Finals. The Magic got owned by the Rockets. If it wasn't for Nick Andersons choke job who knows how that would've turned out. That choking by Nick Anderson swung the momentum for the series. Also if you found out their averages for the series I'd greatly appriciate it. I guarnatee Shaq and Hakeem both got 20+ PPG and 10+ RPG.Oh my source was fter the 02-03 season. Before Shaq got to the Finals and 04, before Shaq got robbed of MVP in 05, and before Shaq won the title in 06. It was from a book I have.If Shaq was guarding a 6'8 220 pound white guy I'm sure he'd get at least as many blocks as Wilt as well.Shaq is a 3 Times Finals MVP. How many Finals MVP does Wilt have? Shaq has been the best player on the best team in the NBA for 3 years and the second best player on the best team in the NBA for one year. Anyway it is exttremyly difficult to compare players in diferent eras especially one that played in teh 60s/70s and one that played in the 90s/00s.
I never said i was an expert. I have a wilt game right here on dvd and i've seen countless of highlights and anyone with eyes can see the guy had many more moves than shaq. Add that with his athletiscm and length and shaq goes around in circles. Secondly, Shaq said himself he was badly outplayed. Who are you to disagree? And shaq isn't a humble guy is either.Thirdly, Shaq didn't get robbed off the mvp and he didn't win the title for the heat. Wade won the championship, shaq was useless and was bricking freethrows. Wade saved his ass from embarassment.edit: And since you don't see youtube as being credible source then find me a video where it has Shaq making turnaround fingers of turn around shots. You can't because otuside of shaq's area, he can't do anything.You try to discredit Wilt but explain to me how many rings has shaq won without phil jackson? 1How many championships did Wilt win without Jerry west and co? 1Case closed.edit: You know nothing about the lakers. Without the role players, there's no 3 peat. Without Horry hitting that 3, no 3 peat. Without derek fisher suffocating Ai in game 5, we don't win that game. Without Rick fox doing eveything in that game 7, there's no 3 peat. Role players are very important. This is why when arrived he brough in ron harper and Brian shaw. Guys who knew their roles.
wilt played in an era where he was the biggest player by a long way!!!the comparison is too hard to judge. hakeem v shaq in thier primes would be better
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Anyway it is exttremyly difficult to compare players in diferent eras especially one that played in teh 60s/70s and one that played in the 90s/00s.</div>And yet you are doing it now.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Shaq has been the best player on the best team in the NBA for 3 years and the second best player on the best team in the NBA for one year.</div>And Wilt was the best player in the league for years on end.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>If Wilt was so great he should've dominated anyway.</div>Once again, who are the modern-day Celtics? The best competition for the Lakers during their three-peat was the Kings and Lakers. Hardly a match for the Celtics.
