Shaq: 'Whoever changed the ball needs to be fired'

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  1. norespect

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting phunDamentalz:</div><div class="quote_post">Expressing how you feel is one thing. Saying "whoever changed it needs to be fired" in the papers is another. Shaq should look up "class" in the dictionary. of course it ain't slavery. But Shaq is not bigger than the game. Shaq does not hire or fire the people who are in charge of which ball they use, even though he thinks because he makes so much that he controls the league.</div>

    He didn't even know how long the nba has been around....."100....50 years, whatever"
    what a bozo
     
  2. Char

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    It's not like the old ball was notoriously bad. It would not be a surprise to see it changed back.
    Reporters love Shaq, and Shaq loves reporters. But if it is for real, more players will(like Nash) speak up about how they feel about the new ball.
     
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    More praise for the new ball.
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Dallas Morning News - As far as the Mavericks are concerned, the NBA can take its new ball and go home.

    The league decided to change official basketballs this season, replacing the pebbled, leather spheres with a microfiber composite ball that is getting widely ripped.

    "They stink," guard Jason Terry said of the new ball. "I've worked out with it all summer long, and I've grown accustomed to losing the ball out of bounds a couple times. It's going to happen."

    The ball has the look and feel of an indoor-outdoor ball, Terry said. And he's not the only one who has had trouble holding onto it.

    "Dirk [Nowitzki] had two or three layups [in practice] and they just popped right out of his hands," Terry said.

    Nowitzki, one of the NBA's biggest stars, gave a succinct impression of the new ball: a thumb's-down signal.</div>

    Source
     
  4. Chutney

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    The reviews, while all negative, seem to be inconsistent. Nash and Kwame say that it's too sticky and that it stays on the hand too long. Shaq and the Mavs have complained about how easily they lose handle of it. I actually want to try the new ball and see the difference. Maybe it's just people out of their comfort zone?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Swish15 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">More praise for the new ball.


    Source</div>And to think, before I read the article, I actually thought you were serious ! [​IMG]
     
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    From articles listed in hoopshype.com/rumors.html

    Shaq doesn't like it
    Arenas doesn't
    Melo doesn't
    Nash doessn't
    Raja Bell doesn't
    Marcus Banks doesn't
    Marion doesn't
    Ilgauskaus doesn't
    Rasheed doesn't
    Dirk doesn't
    Terry doesn't
    Stackhouse doesn't
    Avery Johnson didn't care
    Jason Kidd didn't say, just commented that they probably changed it because the old ball was designed for indoors, and most kids play outdoors so the old ball didn't sell very well.
    Jarret Jack loved it
    Joel Pryzbilla likes it because its easier to palm
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">SkiptoMyLue11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">From articles listed in hoopshype.com/rumors.html

    Shaq doesn't like it
    Arenas doesn't
    Melo doesn't
    Nash doessn't
    Raja Bell doesn't
    Marcus Banks doesn't
    Marion doesn't
    Ilgauskaus doesn't
    Rasheed doesn't
    Dirk doesn't
    Terry doesn't
    Stackhouse doesn't
    Avery Johnson didn't care
    Jason Kidd didn't say, just commented that they probably changed it because the old ball was designed for indoors, and most kids play outdoors so the old ball didn't sell very well.
    Jarret Jack loved it
    Joel Pryzbilla likes it because its easier to palm</div>

    Thanks for compiling the list.

    Also, I think it's safe to say that the Blazers players were all stoned during their interviews so let's just say N/A for them. [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">phunDamentalz Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Expressing how you feel is one thing. Saying "whoever changed it needs to be fired" in the papers is another. Shaq should look up "class" in the dictionary. of course it ain't slavery. But Shaq is not bigger than the game. Shaq does not hire or fire the people who are in charge of which ball they use, even though he thinks because he makes so much that he controls the league.</div>
    Shaq doesn't have class? The guy who offered to pay for George Mikan's funeral, or the one who is very active in the community and does alot of charity work with kids and education. The truth is, whoever implimented that trash basketball should be fired. Before you make a drastic change like that, it's only right you get the players opinon first. The league is WRONG and Shaq is right. As much as Shaq has done for the league, they have to respect his opinion. And he's only one of MANY players who HATE that new ball.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Shaq doesn't have class? The guy who offered to pay for George Mikan's funeral, or the one who is very active in the community and does alot of charity work with kids and education. The truth is, whoever implimented that trash basketball should be fired. Before you make a drastic change like that, it's only right you get the players opinon first. The league is WRONG and Shaq is right. As much as Shaq has done for the league, they have to respect his opinion. And he's only one of MANY players who HATE that new ball.</div>
    Nice history lesson, but how does that reflect on what Shaq did right now? Those comments were classless. He could have expressed his opinion like everyone else, without adding in that nonsense at the end.
     
  10. Shapecity

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    <div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The reviews, while all negative, seem to be inconsistent. Nash and Kwame say that it's too sticky and that it stays on the hand too long. Shaq and the Mavs have complained about how easily they lose handle of it. I actually want to try the new ball and see the difference. Maybe it's just people out of their comfort zone?</div>

    It's inconsistent because they're two seperate complaints.

    1. When the ball is dry it's too, sticky
    2. When the ball gets wet from sweat, it doesn't absorb properly and becomes slippery.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">It's inconsistent because they're two seperate complaints.

    1. When the ball is dry it's too, sticky
    2. When the ball gets wet from sweat, it doesn't absorb properly and becomes slippery.</div>
    Now it makes sense, before I thought people were being inconsistent like Chutney was saying. Thanks for clearing that up.
     
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    They shouldnt have changed it, I find real leather way more easier to handle on the courts.
     
  13. Chutney

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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">It's inconsistent because they're two seperate complaints.

    1. When the ball is dry it's too, sticky
    2. When the ball gets wet from sweat, it doesn't absorb properly and becomes slippery.</div>

    Yea, you're right. I just read an article in the Suns forum that mentioned that:
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">When the ball is dry, the players say it is sticky. When sweat gets on the ball, it becomes slippery because the moisture seems to sit on the ball like a waterproof surface.</div>


    Although, Marcus Banks seemed the least bothered by it and said that it always sticks:
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Suns' other principal ball handler, Marcus Banks, is more indifferent about the ball and saw the good in the stronger hold when dry. But he'll miss how the other ball gripped on a sweaty hand.

    "This ball sticks all the time," Banks said. "We've got to learn to like it."</div>

    http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/s...nsmain1005.html
     
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    Yeah this was a pointless move, I think all the players have to right to voice their concerns about the new ball, as the old saying goes, if it aint broke, dont fix it.

    I dont blame the players for being pissed off, especially when there are other more important issues at hand that are still unattended to.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Stu Jackson said O'Neal would not be fined for his outburst, in which he said that the person who decided to change the ball "needs his college degree revoked." But he did say that the change would not have been made if there were many similar complaints when the ball was tested.

    "We would have pulled the ball," Jackson said.</div>

    So there it is, the players have been testing this ball since the second half of last season, and the article mentioned most have tested it prior to that event. The time for the players to complain was back then, not now. So all the piss and moan is too, late.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Shaq, who took a spinning jump hook in the lane, about six feet from the basket. But the ball slipped in his hand and went straight up in the air -- without moving toward the hoop at all.

    It was one of three times Shaq lost the handle in a span of about 15 minutes.</div>

    Shaq better get used to it and just learn to deal with the change. He did spend anytime trying to adjust to the new ball over the summer and now with less than a month away he wants to bitch about it.

    I guess Shaq will only learn how to play with the new ball on "company time."
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Nice history lesson, but how does that reflect on what Shaq did right now? Those comments were classless. He could have expressed his opinion like everyone else, without adding in that nonsense at the end.</div>
    It's TRUE. The person who approved that ball should be fired. It's supposed to have more grip, but it's slick. It's supposed to last longer, but players say it wears down quick. Maybe if Steve Nash said it, you'd be feel a little bit better[​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">It's TRUE. The person who approved that ball should be fired. It's supposed to have more grip, but it's slick. It's supposed to last longer, but players say it wears down quick. Maybe if Steve Nash said it, you'd be feel a little bit better[​IMG]</div>

    Steve Nash did complain, but the difference is he didn't single out an individual. If you read the article it wasn't the idea of just one person to change the ball, it was a group, INCLUDING players, who approved the change.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">NTC187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah this was a pointless move, I think all the players have to right to voice their concerns about the new ball, as the old saying goes, if it aint broke, dont fix it.

    I dont blame the players for being pissed off, especially when there are other more important issues at hand that are still unattended to.</div>

    I agree, it was completly fine, the nba's trying to get more money by putting a new ball that costs even more then the old one.
     

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