Sheldon and Danforth say 72-73% chance Dwight Howard signs here

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  1. BlazerCaravan

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    Yeah, I need to explore the How Would Dwight Fit angle in an article, if we sign him. Dame and CJ definitely would help Dwight more over Harden and Kobe.
     
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    It's not just the coaching staff, it's the fans. Howard hasn't been fan loved since he left Orlando. He would love it here, it would motivate him.
     
    SlyPokerDog, Jun 22, 2016
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    The fact that it IS the official radio station of the Blazers says volumes about the importance the team puts on that medium.
     
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    He could be option 2, or even option 1 in some circumstances against various opponents. My question is how will Terry change the offense to suit him? He's not a threat from the perimeter and Dame isnt' great at throwing lobs.
     
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    Pau is still really good in 2k!
     
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    The Dreamcast version?
     
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    Plums isn't a threat from the perimeter and Stotts found a way to take full advantage of his skills.

    Lillard and CJ will both throw lobs. Both have high BB IQs, are students of the game, want to win, and will look to take advantage of Howard.
     
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    Now that's old school, like Pau. Maybe we should bring in Manu too while we're at it since he just opted out and we'll have the best 2k1 team ever.
     
    santeesioux, Jun 22, 2016
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    BC compared Dwight to Plumlee, but I'm assuming we would trade Plumlee if we went out and got Dwight. Soooooo the question is: Would Dwight+(whatever we got for Plumlee) be better than Plumlee?
     
    Natebishop3, Jun 22, 2016
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    I can't believed the doubters around here. It would be Lob City 2.0 with Howard paired with our backcourt.

     
    craigehlo, Jun 22, 2016
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Probably?
     
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    I didn't really watch any Rockets games last year, but I know on local Houston sports radio, most of the "experts" believed he was sandbagging a bit because he was unhappy for being ignored on the offensive end. 8.5 attempts was the fewest he's had since his rookie season by about 2 shot attempts per game. He still shot 62% from the field and had 12 rpg. The guy can still play, and for reasons only known to him, James Harden froze him out of the offense. He basically quit on that team....Not that that is a redeeming quality or anything
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I'm hoping Dwight will settle for less than max at this point in his career so we can keep Plumlee. Give Dwight's age and recent injury history, I'd like to see him and Plums split the minutes at center, pretty much 24 mpg each, during the regular season. Maybe even rest him on the second night of back-to-backs to keep him fresh for the playoffs. Convince him it's in his best interest to play fewer minutes in the regular season. It will prolong his career and hopefully have him rested, healthy and ready for the post season. Pop has been doing it forever with Duncan. If our guys continue to improve we should have HCA in the 1st round with Dwight playing 24 MPG and a rested, healthy Dwight could help us get past the 2nd round, and then, anything can happen.

    Also, as Plums improves, Dwight can play even fewer minutes as he gets older. Again, it's the Duncan model. Prolong his career by several years by minimizing the wear and tear on his body during the long, grueling regular season. If you can convince him it will prolong his career by a few years, he may be willing to take less money per year as it all averages out in the end.

    BNM
     
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    Yesterday, I was reading about how he opted out and I got a sick feeling that he was going to be headed this way. I hope not. Signing him for the sake of signing a big name free agent doesn't make sense. He is on the wrong side of the curve, and goes against the grain. Signing him will undo all that Neil has done to build a sustainable team that can contend for years to come. It is not only a "holding pattern" move, it may prove far worse, trying to take a shortcut, that's not a shortcut. Like trying to seal a hole in an airplane fuselage with a used bandaid instead of taking the time to rebuild it correctly. It's not a wise move. Neil, please don't sell out the Blazers future for a larger TV venue in the NW
     
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    Plums had some nice rebounding games in the playoffs, but has everyone forgot how bad he got the yips when the caught ball in the paint? Plumlee can't finish, which is a huge problem for a starting center. Dwight doesn't have that limitation and he gets 1.4 blocks per game.
     
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    What do you think we could get for Plumlee? An older starting Pf, maybe? It's a shame the salaries don't match up and the Grizz wouldn't have a use for him anyway with Gasol, but I would love to bring back Zbo.
     
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    I'm not going to argue for or against Howard, because I'm pretty ambivalent about what his presence on the team would mean for wins and losses, but if (for the sake of argument) Howard was the only B+ level player willing to sign here, then Neil would be an idiot not to sign him.

    The cap space is use it or lose it and Howard would be at least a marginal upgrade over what we currently have in the front court.
     
    Nikolokolus, Jun 22, 2016
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    This is the way I see it too. I don't want to depend on Dwight to be a 36 mpg player, because I don't think his back can handle it. And that being the case, I don't see how he's worth anywhere close to even the 0-6 year max, let alone the 10y+ max. If he wants to come to Portland--and honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if he does--he needs to do so for 15-20M/year. If we would need to renounce any of our RFA's or release any of our NGC's in order to bring him in, then he's clearly demanding too much, both in terms of compensation and role.

    There's no need for Plumlee to be traded. He would be a top-notch backup center, and that's exactly what he should be.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    This is a guy who really needs a change of scenery. First he played with Kobe, and then Harden, two of the biggest ball dominant, me first players of the last 20 years. Even if his shot attempts don't go up, he'd still feel like he's part of a team, and not totally ignored by his teammates. Lillard is a much better leader and a more inclusive personality than Harden, and especially Kobe. I think Stotts' offense, that get's everyone involved, and Damian's leadership will improve Howard's attitude and outlook greatly.

    I'd still rather have Horford or Whiteside, but those two will most likely resign with their current teams. You gotta get what you can get while you can get it.

    BNM
     
    Boob-No-More, Jun 22, 2016
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    If we could sign Dwight for $25 million per year, how would you guys feel about offering up CJ/Aminu/Davis for Kevin Love? We re-sign Crabbe and Harkless, keep Plumlee, and pickup a backup point guard.

    Dame
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    Love/Howard could be the best frontcourt in the NBA. With Vonleh, Plumlee as the backup frontcourt of the future. We would need to find some suitable guys to come off the bench though.
     
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